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Incorrect GIB explanation of Michaels Advance 1C 2C P 3C alerted as 3+ 3+ in Majors. GIB had hearts and spade void

#1 User is offline   mediesel 

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Posted 2015-February-23, 21:26

Sitting South in Robot tournament, I dealt and opened:

1C 2C P 3C alerted as 3+ 3+ in Majors.
E. GIB actually had hearts and spade void (V,AKQ7,Q10987642,6)

Believing this alert, I pulled N GIB's penalty double of W Gib's 4S bid.

LOL, obviously W GIB believed E also!
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Posted 2015-February-23, 22:24


If 2 shows 12+ total points and 3 shows 14+ total points with a double fit, why is 3 only forcing to 3?

It's also strange that 5 is described as a cue bid and West passes it.
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Posted 2015-February-24, 05:37

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-February-23, 22:24, said:


If 2 shows 12+ total points and 3 shows 14+ total points with a double fit, why is 3 only forcing to 3?

It's also strange that 5 is described as a cue bid and West passes it.


I never think the explanations of Gib are incorrect.
1- I think the key problem is definition of 3,according to Gib CC,cuebid 3 promises 3+ and 3+,so 3 for this hand is not a inapropriate bid since voidness in .
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why is 3 only forcing to 3?

If you think "forcing to 3" is a good option,how to signoff 3? so here,no problem.
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It's also strange that 5 is described as a cue bid and West passes it.

Please take care of mediesel's bidding !
At first,mediesel cuebid have promised 3+ and 3+,then after trump confirmed by Gib W,5 is also a cuebid with 3+card support for sure,pass should be a playable option.

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Posted 2015-February-25, 07:25

Fixed 3 call for next version not to mislead about lengths ( i.e. using with just one of them ).

However will be addressed about possibility to be general GF and partner to differentiate his strength over such forcing.

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