[Mbodell]

I open 1♦ and I plan to pass 1nt. Over the auction that continued with opponents 2♣ and partners 2nt I'll try 3♠. So depending on the auction I'm either more passive than most (passing 1nt) or more agressive (trying 3♠ instead of 3♦).

[the hog]

"I plan to pass 1nt." You cannot be serious.

[jillybean]

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Oops.

More later, teams today.

[kgr]

 jillybean, on 2015-January-04, 10:21, said:

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Oops.

More later, teams today.

1D opening: I prefer: 1D > 1S
2NT: I prefer: 2NT > 3C > 3NT
3S: I prefer: 3S > 3NT >> 3D > Pass
4S: I prefer: 4D > 3NT >> 5D >>>> 4S
=> IMO the bidding was fine until the 4S bid.

[mgoetze]

I guess North thought 3♠ shows a 7-6 hand?

[Phil]

 TylerE, on 2015-January-03, 16:51, said:

Why aren't we bidding 3♦? Having limited our values via 1♠-1N-[2di], 3♦ now has to be extra shape, not extra values. Seems to resemble the hand I'm holding.

It depends.

After 1♠ - 1N - 2♦ - 2♥ - 3♦ is just looking for a better place to land, however, expect partner to make the wrong decision with 2-2 in the pointed suits.

But if the auction starts:1♠ - 1N - 2♦ - 2♠, 3♦ is definitely extras.

Either way, even if you land on your feet, you'll have a hard time convincing anyone you are showing longer diamonds.

[jillybean]

 mgoetze, on 2015-January-04, 11:20, said:

I guess North thought 3♠ shows a 7-6 hand?

No, after calming down when he thought I was showing a "huge hand" he said he should bid diamonds.

[nige1]

 Zelandakh, on 2015-January-03, 05:10, said:

Seriously nige, 0 for 2/3♦?

Imaginative bid with so many HCP. It might work. I didn't consider it, so give it only 7.

[nige1]

 jillybean, on 2015-January-04, 10:21, said:

Oops.


More later, teams today.

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IMO,

• Over 2N, South: 3♦ = 10, 3♠ = 7
• Over 3♠, North: 4♣ = 10, 3N = 9, 5♦ = 8, 6♦ = 7.

[jillybean]

 nige1, on 2015-January-04, 22:22, said:

IMO,

• Over 2N, South: 3♦ = 10, 3♠ = 7
• Over 3♠, North: 4♣ = 10, 3N = 9, 5♦ = 8, 6♦ = 7.

Nige, your rating system is starting to annoy me, it would be much more useful to hear the reason WHY you rated the bids that way.

[nige1]

 jillybean, on 2015-January-04, 22:28, said:

Nige, your rating system is starting to annoy me, it would be much more useful to hear the reason WHY you rated the bids that way.

I apologize. No intention to annoy but I'm puzzled. Do you prefer when a poster baldly states his choice, dismissing alternatives as rubbish? I, sometimes, explain my marks -- unless I think they're obvious -- or somebody else has already justified the alternative choices. Anyway, I'm happy to explain here.

• Over partner's 2N, a 3♦ rebid is non-forcing and limits your hand. As Mr Ace and Phil point out, opponents have a heart fit and if they bid 3♥, you might elect to bid 3♠, which should show 56 shape, without promising a mountain.
• Most partnerships treat an immediate 3♠ as a reverse, showing a better hand than you hold but you bravely chose that bid, at the table. Over that, partner might try for a slam with a 4♣ cue-bid. He might worry that a 4♣ cue-bid sets ♠ as trumps, so he might settle for game in 3N or 5♦. With a maximum pass, 4 card ♦ support, and a couple of aces, he might hazard 6♦ (expecting you to have more for your 3♠ bid).

[jillybean]

Thanks that's a lot better & please excuse me, I'm tired and grumpy after a long weekend of bridge.

[Mbodell]

 the hog, on 2015-January-04, 03:47, said:

"I plan to pass 1nt." You cannot be serious.

Why not? If I can buy the contract in 1nt all white when it seems very likely that the opponents have 8 or 9 tricks in a ♥ contract (they have at least a 9 card fit), that seems like a great thing. I expect we have 19-22 hcp and no guarantee of a fit. I think it reasonably likely that I can setup and enjoy the diamonds, and think I'll make 1nt decently often, with overtricks some of the time, and rarely be down many tricks. It is true I might miss a 5-3 spade fit or a 6-3 diamond fit, but I don't think the other auctions are likely to be that great for me once it has gone 1♦-1nt. I much prefer when it goes the reasonably likely 1♦-1♥-1♠ or the less likely 1♦-1♠ or opponents bidding, but I tried my best by opening 1♦ and now I take my medicine (of missed possible spade fit) on this auction.