[ArtK78]

Swiss Teams. 9 board match, IMPs converted to VPs.

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Note: We are playing a light opening system at this vulnerability, so the 1NT bid would show 6-12 HCP if there were no intervening bid. It is about the same with the intervening bid, but obviously responder does not have to make a call here with a balanced 6 count. Also, as the 1♣ opener could be based on a 10 count (but not a balanced 10 count, as we open a 10-13 1NT), the 3♣ rebid is clear.

What do you bid over 3♥? What kind of hand do you think partner has?

[whereagles]

I'd say pard has some 9-12 count with a dubious heart stopper.. something like Jxx or Qxx.

3NT seems normal now. I'm a bit weary about diamonds, but if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

[gszes]

3s (instead of 3h) is never a natural bid here and whatever else
p may be holding we can be pretty darn sure that a spade stopper
is one thing that is missing from their hand. If p is willing to move
over 3c they should have at least 9 count and that can take many forms
with it being pure guess work btn 3n and 5c. If we now take the time
to bid

3s

this will p a chance to bid 3n with a dia stop and greatly help clarify
their holding. If p bids 3n that is probably the right place to play
if they cannot bid 3n I would aim for 5c as making 6c would take a near
perfecto Kx Kx xxxxx Axxx or xx KQ xxxxx Axxx pretty slim pickings.

[Fluffy]

Sorry Art, I don't understand from your OP if 1NT promises a stopper or not.

[MrAce]

Fluffy, on 2014-October-13, 12:00, said:

Sorry Art, I don't understand from your OP if 1NT promises a stopper or not.

Obv he would let us know if it did not, Gonzalo.

[nige1]

ArtK78, on 2014-October-13, 06:16, said:

Swiss Teams. 9 board match, IMPs converted to VPs.
Note: We are playing a light opening system at this vulnerability, so the 1NT bid would show 6-12 HCP if there were no intervening bid. It is about the same with the intervening bid, but obviously responder does not have to make a call here with a balanced 6 count. Also, as the 1♣ opener could be based on a 10 count (but not a balanced 10 count, as we open a 10-13 1NT), the 3♣ rebid is clear. What do you bid over 3♥? What kind of hand do you think partner has?

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IMO 3N = 10, 3♠ = 7. In this auction, a useful meaning for the cue-bid is to show a good stop in opponent's suit, worry about stoppers in the unbid suits but a desire to keep 3N in the frame. Probably, he holds (at worst) ♠ x x x ♥ K J x ♦ J x x x ♣ A x x

[ArtK78]

Fluffy, on 2014-October-13, 12:00, said:

Sorry Art, I don't understand from your OP if 1NT promises a stopper or not.

Let me put it this way.

He believes he has an adequate stopper for the purposes of making 1NT. That may not be the same thing as an adequate stopper for the purposes of making 3NT.

[mike777]

This seems such a wtp 3nt here

I take 1nt here as natural and roughly 8+-11
typical hand might be:

Kxx...Qxx..AJxxx...xx


sidenote I would open an off shape 1nt

[ArtK78]

mike777, on 2014-October-13, 15:57, said:

sidenote I would open an off shape 1nt

I find that the idea of opening this hand 1NT to be bizarre, especially at IMPs, where playing in 5♣ is much more likely to be right than at matchpoints.

This is aside from the fact that it would have been a 10-13 1NT opening at this vulnerability, a fact that I did not feel was relevant to mention in the OP.

[MrAce]

mike777, on 2014-October-13, 15:57, said:

sidenote I would open an off shape 1nt

Mike...are you ok bro?

[rmnka447]

I would take the original 1 NT as 8-10 probably denying 4 ♠ with a stopper.

The 3 ♥ call is positive, but partner may be looking at a single stop and not a particularly good fit for ♣. In that case, partner may be concerned about 3 NT because your side might not be able to run 8 more tricks after the stopper is knocked out.

I'd bid 3 NT over 3 ♥ with the opening hand. ♥ shouldn't be a problem and checking on the pointed suit stoppers might lead the opponents to the right defense.

[the_clown]

I would bid 3♠. If partner cant bid 3N I would rather play 5♣ (Partner didnt bid 3♦ so he wont have a ton of wasted values)

[neilkaz]

ArtK78, on 2014-October-13, 14:58, said:

Let me put it this way.

He believes he has an adequate stopper for the purposes of making 1NT. That may not be the same thing as an adequate stopper for the purposes of making 3NT.

OK then I will bid 3NT now.

[ggwhiz]

I don't know why partner can't have ♥Kx, ♣A to whatever length plus a card.

Partner wants to get to game and 3nt on a diamond lead could be embarrassing. Not to mention, 6♣ is quite possible and comes with ZERO risk to explore with a 3♠ bid.

I would be much more surprised to go down in 5♣ than in 3nt and given my heart length a diamond lead is likely against that, or at least a non heart.

The idea that the guy that showed a stopper is asking for one instead of showing plus values for clubs and/or a diamond or spade problem is frankly bizarre.

[wank]

partner must be showing a good hand for clubs. considering how much we have in hearts and clubs [our 2 suits] and how little we have outside, i can't see the desire to rush to 3nt.

kx kjx xxxx axxx is a perfectly likely hand with 3nt off and 6c gin

i'd prevaricate with 3s.