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How would you bid this grand? AKx AJxxx Qxx Ax vs. QJxxx KTxxx AKx void

#1 User is offline   foobar 

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Posted 2014-July-27, 12:03

Uncontested auction with South dealer (from NABC GNT-B KO round):


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Posted 2014-July-27, 12:36

We'd bid this:

1-1
1N(15-bad 19)-2(asking)
3(5 hearts 17-bad 19)-5(XKC)
5(2 without, Aexcluded)-5N(anything else, looking for grand)
7(anything you could possibly want)

There are some subtle inferences in this auction due to bids that weren't made, but partner will have at least Qxxxx, KQxx, Axxx void so the worst it can possibly be on is the spade break assuming hearts not 4-0, and very likely he has J and/or is 553 and/or has K. The 5N bid implies he's looking for K as he can't ask for it directly, or possibly K and another card, and that A will be of some use, so AKx is very likely.
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Posted 2014-July-27, 13:40

I wouldn't worry about showing . I'd start with a Jacoby 2 NT raise.

1 - 2 NT (Jacoby)

3 (Standard Jacoby - 17+ flat hand)

--- 4 - (Cue)

(A judgement to show the control partner can't have rather than cheapest control)

4 NT - (1430)

--- 6 - (even number and void)

6 - (must be a grand slam try, implies having all the keys)

--- 7 - (K fifth is good enough opposite A fifth, K is here if looking for it, at worst might need finesse)

(Responder should see that opener might not try for grand holding many honors.)



Playing with my favorite partner, we'd have our own responses to Jacoby and some specialized old fashioned cueing. So our auction would be

1 - 2 NT (Jacoby)

3 (17+ flat hand)

--- 3 - waiting bid initiating cueing

3 - 1st round control in

--- 4 - 1st round controls in ,

(Looking at A, opener knows responder has a void)

4 - 2nd round control in

--- 5 - 2nd round controls in , , a high trump honor, 3rd round control

5 NT (GSF)

7 - K fifth is good enough.
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Posted 2014-July-27, 13:47

1-1
2N-3
3-5
5-5N
6-7

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2014-July-27, 16:38

IMPs or MPs?

Natural-ish:

1 - 2 (nat; mini-spl or maxi-spl);
2NT - 3 (relay; maxi + void);
3NT - 4 (relay; void);
4 - 4 (control ask; control, no control);
4NT - 5 (kc ask; 1 or 4 kc);
5 - 5NT (Q ask; Q + K);
6 - 6 (SSA; Q);
7

Strong Club:

1 = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1 = 4+ spades, GF
1 = relay, usually 18+
... - 1NT = 4+ hearts
2 = relay
... - 2 = 5-5 or more
2NT = relay
... - 3 = 5530
3 = relay
... - 4 = extras, 4 controls
4NT = Q ask
... - 5 = Q, no Q
5 = J ask
... - 5NT = no J
6 = J?
... - 6 = yes, but no J
7NT

Getting to 7NT naturally probably means having North take control together with a little space optimisation. For example, take Hanoi's auction up to 5NT but adjust for the known void, then possible is:

(1 - 1; 2NT - 3; 3 - 5; 5 - 5NT)
6 = K
... - 6 = A?
7 = yes, and Q
... - 7NT

Of course if we are playing IMPs the hand is not such a challenge...
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