[foobar]

Here's a hand from the recent GNT B finals that contributed to our defeat.

All vulnerable, North deals and passes to you. What is your plan with this hand?

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[mike777]

As a nonexpert B player I would open 5d and then be quiet and let them make the last guess.

This reminds me of a hand from the other night. I opened 5d vul vs not, it went pass, pass 6h on my right...my pard then backed in with 7d then double on my left for 800. they were cold for 7h and 7s. the problem was our teammates played in 5h.

[steve2005]

I would open 4♦. For me 5♦ would be better suit notwithstanding the side 5-card ♣ suit which no doubt enticed you.

[whereagles]

bit of guesswork here.. I guess 4D + 5C and pass thereafter

[rmnka447]

I'd also bid 5 ♦ and pass thereafter.

It looks like you have 4 losers without any help from partner. You might have 5 losers if the opponents can somehow find a ♣ ruff.

If the opponents bid at the 5 level, I sit because I don't want to push them into a makeable slam that they wouldn't bid on their own.

[neilkaz]

 rmnka447, on 2014-July-21, 17:29, said:

I'd also bid 5 ♦ and pass thereafter.

It looks like you have 4 losers without any help from partner. You might have 5 losers if the opponents can somehow find a ♣ ruff.

If the opponents bid at the 5 level, I sit because I don't want to push them into a makeable slam that they wouldn't bid on their own.

Yes, we agree. Bid 5♦ and see where the chips fall. Maybe the opps guess right, maybe not. Maybe PD can raise and then the opps go wrong.

With 7 HCP and a crazy ODR and zero cards in the majors I want to bid a lot instantly.

[Mbodell]

I think 1!d is a possibility, as is 4nt, as is 1nt.

Congrats on making it to the finals and destroying a very good team in the semis.

[the hog]

5d. No second choice.

[gszes]

rho has passed lot some of it luster since it is 5050 which player we will preempt the
most. I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. We have the ability to bid all the way to 7d (forget clubs) on our own and expect to
to down no more than 1100/1400 (less than their slam).. the 4d bid gets the idea of our 1 suited little/no
defense type hand to partner so we can safely honor all x they may make if lho bids and we can continue
to sac if p cannot x their 6 level bids (we might more happily subside if p cannot x their 5 level bid).

[the hog]

 gszes, on 2014-July-22, 08:10, said:

rho has passed lot some of it luster since it is 5050 which player we will preempt the
most. I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. We have the ability to bid all the way to 7d (forget clubs) on our own and expect to
to down no more than 1100/1400 (less than their slam).. the 4d bid gets the idea of our 1 suited little/no
defense type hand to partner so we can safely honor all x they may make if lho bids and we can continue
to sac if p cannot x their 6 level bids (we might more happily subside if p cannot x their 5 level bid).

one suited? I thought I saw some clubs.

[foobar]

Thanks for the responses. Here's what happened at the tables (OP was sitting out).

Spoiler

Our EW teammates opened the 5♦:

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Spoiler

Our NS teammates (aware of a bidding accident that had cost 13 IMPs in a bread and butter slam that any 2/1 system would have found), decided to try and stir things up by making a very questionable preempt and his partner decided to apply LTT principles:

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Needless to say, both contracts rolled home, but it was a somewhat comical ending to a board that could very well been much better (7♣ / 7♦ NS vs. 6♥EW) or much worse (double slam swing).

[wank]

lol at the passers. you must get more 8-5 hands than i do. i'm not letting the opps play this one until i run out of bids or partner applies a red card.

[Antrax]

Do you really bid 5♥ here with South's hand over 5♦?

[gszes]

 the hog, on 2014-July-23, 04:40, said:

one suited? I thought I saw some clubs.

you went from 5d no 2nd choice to worrying about clubs sigh I thought we were a kindred spirit
for a moment----far too easy to completely lose the dia suit if p does not have a huge club
preference----it is a form of insurance to forget about club:)

[DrMunk]

 gszes, on 2014-July-22, 08:10, said:

... I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. ...

But bidding 4♦ also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract)

[the hog]

 DrMunk, on 2014-July-31, 04:56, said:

But bidding 4♦ also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract)

well maybe you better pass because ds might break 5-0 and you cannot even make 1.

[the hog]

 DrMunk, on 2014-July-31, 04:56, said:

But bidding 4♦ also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract)

well maybe you better pass because ds might break 5-0 and you cannot even make 1.