[Walddk]

Scoring: IMP

S: 4S
Lead: DK

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Here is a deal from real life. We are at Ostend in Belgium for the European Championships 1965. South was the legendary Giorgio Belladonna from Italy. You are in 4♠ with no interference. Looks very promising, doesn't it? At least 7 trump tricks and 2 aces.

Plenty of chances for the 10th trick. Is there a 100% line that will see you home no matter how the layout is?

Roland

[joker_gib]

I know this deal and will give an indication !

This is a great and not intuitive play !

[pclayton]

I've seen the hand before (I think). My answer hidden:

Spoiler

Play a club to the Ace and play a heart toward the Jxx!. If RHO flies with an honor, you make 2 heart tricks by force. If LHO wins, he can't attack trump. Either way, you end up with 7♠, two aces and a ♥ or ♥ ruff.

By the way if RHO does rise with the Q, you need to play the Q♠ out of hand first (NOT ♠A, ♠), in case RHO has ♠Kxx and a doubleton ♥.

Great hand that I had forgotten about.

[inquiry]

Walddk, on Feb 18 2005, 11:25 AM, said:

Plenty of chances for the 10th trick. Is there a 100% line that will see you home no matter how the layout is?

No, there isn't a 100% line that makes regardless of opponents distribution.. The idden line is best, but imagine the hidden holding...

Spoiler

Best line, low to club ACE, then low towards the heart Jack. Plan is to set up heart or ruff one. This can be spoiled by, .....

you lead club, west ruffs, lead heart to queen, they take heart ace, and EAST leads yet another club.... This loses to WEST with a hand with
S-Kx (x)
H-xx(x)
D-xxxxx(x)
C-void

[flytoox]

the problem is not do it here, but recongnize it at the table. This applies to most declarer problem.

[Walddk]

inquiry, on Feb 18 2005, 11:23 AM, said:

No, there isn't a 100% line that makes regardless of opponents distribution

Correct, there is a 99.5% line. The rest of you who want to try can take it from there.

Roland

[junyi_zhu]

Walddk, on Feb 18 2005, 03:25 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

S: 4S
Lead: DK

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Here is a deal from real life. We are at Ostend in Belgium for the European Championships 1965. South was the legendary Giorgio Belladonna from Italy. You are in 4♠ with no interference. Looks very promising, doesn't it? At least 7 trump tricks and 2 aces.

Plenty of chances for the 10th trick. Is there a 100% line that will see you home no matter how the layout is?

Roland

A similar hand was played by one of the blueteam stars. I first saw it when I was a teenager, reading Forquet's Italian blueteam and bridge, unable to go to sleep that night.

[TimG]

hmm, how do you delete a post?

This post has been edited by TimG: 2005-February-18, 16:42

[Flame]

Nice, i wasnt even close.

[inquiry]

Jlall, on Feb 18 2005, 10:29 PM, said:

How do you do hidden posts and how do you read them?

We you click add a post, their is a row of buttons above the area where you type your message. One of the buttons is labelled hidden. If you click that button, it puts the code (HIDDEN) into the text (but with square brackets not normal parenthasis). After you get the hidden command, everything you type (except oddly card symbols) will be hidden (white text on white background). When you finish typing what you want hidden, press the hidden button again, and it will add the text (/hidden). When the message is posted, all between the two hiddens is hidden.. .so something that looks like this will produce the following

---->(Hidden) There is hidden text between arrows (/hidden) <----------

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Spoiler

Did you find this hidden text?

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To "see" the hidden text, click your mouse and drag over the words (or copy and paste entire message into something like word).

Ben

[luke warm]

i'm with fly on this, it's one thing seeing how to do it here, it's another at the table... a lot of people say they'd take the line belladonna took... maybe they would have... i can say i didn't see it, but i can also say that i'm now aware of this position... so thanks

[Gerardo]

About hidden messages and card symbols:

There are colored card symbols and black ones. Use the black ones in a hidden message (which is just normal text with foreground color changed from black to background color).

[cherdano]

flytoox, on Feb 18 2005, 04:29 PM, said:

the problem is not do it here, but recongnize it at the table. This applies to most declarer problem.

Indeed. While I solved this one rather quickly, I am pretty sure that at the table I would have been too busy figuring out which guesses to make (and complaining about my bad luck if all of them were wrong).

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