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Deal #43 K2 KJ AKJ952 AK6

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Posted 2014-May-19, 20:41

You are South and third seat. Imps. Unfavorable. A recent Bathurst/Moss auction.


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Posted 2014-May-19, 21:02

This is an interesting deal for me because it can go different directions. Here's my "by the book" auction.

1C-1D 16+, 0-4 or 9+
1H-1S asking, asking
2C-2D an invitational hand opposite a DN, asking
3D-P 6D and no major

or I can force game via

1C-1D 16+, 0-4 or 9+
1H-1S asking, asking
3D-3H 6D and no major, 5 hearts
3N

the latter auction being fraught with the hazard of being raised or wrong-sided.

So I wonder if I can avoid this for at least 3rd and 4th seat auctions.

1C-1D 16+, 0-5
3N

if I want to gamble.

Just remembered some other choices.

1C-1D 16+, 0-4 or 9+
2N-3D balanced game force, transfer
3N

1C-1D 16+, 0-4 or 9+
1H-1S asking, asking
2N-3D 23-24, transfer
?

Nothing quite fits if I have to cater to 9+
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Posted 2014-May-19, 21:15

Silent Club:

P-1 weak; strong
1-2 most 0-7-; "strong 2"
2-2N bust (0-2); balanced 22-23 NF
3-3 transfer; competed
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Feels like not quite a GF to me.
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Posted 2014-May-19, 21:27

3 small diamonds and 3NT is looking promising. Even better, Q or 4 diamonds, and 3NT is looking great. Stopping in a part-score looks like double dummy bidding to me.
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Posted 2014-May-19, 21:39

The notes say that the 1 - 1 - 3N is to play and is based on a running minor with some side stops. Is this hand too strong to qualify opposite a PH? Possibly, but unless a passed partner can produce a miracle holding, including a couple of Aces, slam seems remote.

If one considers the hand as too strong, the other choices are:

  • 1 - 1 - 2N, showing a balanced hand with 22-23
  • 1 - 1 - 2 (Kokish) - 2 (forced) - 2N (23+ balanced, GF)

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Posted 2014-May-20, 01:06

P-1(15+nat/bal or 21+any)
1(0-5 or 10+)-2(6+ 21+)
3(signoff)
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Posted 2014-May-20, 07:57

I'd probably duplicate the OP's auction
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Posted 2014-May-20, 14:22

IMPrecision:

1c (16+) - 1d (0-4 or some GF)
2nt* - 3c (pass/correct)
3d - pass

* Minor one-suiter 21+ HCP. If GF then always semi-balanced.
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Posted 2014-May-20, 14:42

View Postawm, on 2014-May-20, 14:22, said:

IMPrecision:

1c (16+) - 1d (0-4 or some GF)
2nt* - 3c (pass/correct)
3d - pass

* Minor one-suiter 21+ HCP. If GF then always semi-balanced.


That's a nice auction, grabbing the NT before offering 3m.
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Posted 2014-May-21, 14:40

C3: Copious Canape Club

1(16+) - 1 (0-7) -
1 (4+, or 2+ & balanced 20-21) - 1 (4+, 0-7 hcp) -
1NT (20-21) - pass (0-3 hcp) -
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Posted 2014-May-21, 14:50

View PostPrecisionL, on 2014-May-21, 14:40, said:

C3: Copious Canape Club

1(16+) - 1 (0-7) -
1 (4+, or 2+ & balanced 20-21) - 1 (4+, 0-7 hcp) -
1NT (20-21) - pass (0-3 hcp) -


But you're almost game in hand. 22 with stoppers and a good 6-cd suit.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 10:18

Two-way pass:

pass 1
3 3
3NT

pass = 0-8 or 15+
1 = 0-8 or 15+
3 = diamonds, 21+
3 = proceed at your own risk. I have a BAD hand.
3NT = could have passed if inspired
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Posted 2014-May-26, 17:21

1C-1D (15+,H or pts)
2D-2H (almost GF 22-23 pts. 0-2 pts promise 4H)
3D-pass (natural, with a stiff D its easy pass)

This is the type of hand that i was talking about in a previous hand almsot gf (22-23) or equivalent are imo 10 times more likely that real GF hands.

After 1C-1D-??

For us 2D is 21-22 with a H fit or 23-23 bal or near gf hands and these hand happen all the time.

3C-3D-3H-3S are pure GF and they rarely happen. So I strongly believe that stuff like

2C--2H!--2S/3H (2H is direct negative 0-2) should be nf or at least you should have a way to stop in 3m.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 11:45

Polish:
1C-1D; 2N[21-23]-3D[transfer]; 3H-P
although GF'ing with close to 9 tricks (e.g. Dxxx, as mentioned above) is tempting:
1C-1D; 2D[art GF]-2H[double neg]; 2N-3D[transfer]; 3H-3N[4S5H]; P
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