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Deal #39 A85 AKQ83 A76 84

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Posted 2014-May-15, 21:02

You are South and dealer. Imps. All white. East overcalls 1S or 2S if available. West will raise 1S to 2S or double if South cue bids spades.


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Posted 2014-May-16, 03:03

Two-way pass:

pass 1 (1)
2 (2) 3
4 5
6

pass = 0-8 or 15+
1 = catch-all, 9-14 no 5 card major
2 = nat 15+
3, 4 = nat 5+ cards, nat slambound
5 = no major suit cue, club ace
6 = very hard to know if 7 is there...
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Posted 2014-May-16, 05:41

Silent Club:

1-2N strong; GF with both minors, no shortness, longer diamonds
3-3 ask; 2254
3-3 QP ask; min (6 or fewer)
3N-P

Our system showed this shape via a zoom high enough we didnt have any interference issues.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 05:56

 rbforster, on 2014-May-16, 05:41, said:

Silent Club:

1-2N strong; GF with both minors, no shortness, longer diamonds
3-3 ask; 2254
3-3 QP ask; min (6 or fewer)
3N-P

Our system showed this shape via a zoom high enough we didnt have any interference issues.


You know KQxxx and Axxx is enough for 6 to be good, why no further investigation ? at IMPs 5 is not to be feared.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 09:56

Not sure what I'd do with an IMPrecision start. I'll be interested to see Adam's post.

1C-1S(2S) 16+, 5-8 bal or 5-10 diamonds
P-3C nf min or trapping, GF 5D/4C
3D-3S fit, punt
4H-5D RKC, 2 and Q, nothing else
6D

If responder had less than GF, I think his options would be double as takeout or 2N as good/bad (confirming diamonds). After 3C GF, opener can probably infer that pd is not 1354 (else double) so showing a diamond fit seems more useful than hearts (not at all sure on this point). After the 3S punt bid, I'd infer that partner doesn't have wasted values in spades and a game in diamonds seems safer than 3N. Plus we have the possibility for a nice surprise (which we get) after RKC.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 10:53

 Cyberyeti, on 2014-May-16, 05:56, said:

You know KQxxx and Axxx is enough for 6 to be good, why no further investigation ? at IMPs 5 is not to be feared.

Am I missing something? It looks like a spade lead holds this contract to 5, and that's with the favorable J showing up in North's hand (same thing happens without the J on a more normal 4-2 heart break). With no fitting shortness and only 18 QPs, that's generally too pushy for me.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 11:21

The hand in fact made only 5D. Without knowing about the HJ I should probably bid only 5D as well. I know I can pitch whatever spade cards partner might have on the AKQ of hearts, but I need all 5 heart tricks to pitch two clubs, too.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 11:45

1 - 3 (16+; 2=2=5=4 exactly)
3 - 3 (QP ask; 6 QPs)
3N

TOSR zooms past the interference, but with a combined total of 18 QPs and uninspiring combined shape, but difficult to ignore the safety of 3N unless looking for a swing. Others may be more gung ho on the prospects of this hand and it may come down to hand evaluation.

Responder's holding may very well be xxxxx of with say AK of and Q.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 13:33

Another difficult one imo:
1-2-(2) (16+ ; GF 5+ unbal)
3-3 (5+ ; dunno what else to do)
4?-4? (hand is too good to bid 3NT imo ; not sure here, might be Kickback Turbo, might be scrambling)
...?
No idea, I guess we'd probably end up in 4...
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Posted 2014-May-16, 14:25

I tried it with a few different Polish variants (starting 1H) and all roads appeared to lead to 3NT.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 17:28

C3: Copious Canape Club

1 - 2 (1 or both minors, no 4-cd Major) (2)
pass (forcing relay) (? assume pass) X (both minors) -
3 (SAB-3) - 3NT (2 exactly)
4 (Assuming less than 4 controls) - pass confirming less than 4 controls -
all pass

Alternate auction deleted 5/18/14

This post has been edited by PrecisionL: 2014-May-17, 19:29

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C3: Copious Canape Club is still my favorite system. (Ultra upgraded, PM for notes)

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Posted 2014-May-16, 17:37

 PrecisionL, on 2014-May-16, 17:28, said:

C3: Copious Canape Club

1 - 2 (1 or both minors, no 4-cd Major) -
2 (relay) - 2 (5+) -
2NT (Relay) - 3 (5 & 4 & 2-2 Majors) -
4 (Beta) - 4 (3 Controls) -
5NT (Any extras?) - pass (No) - all pass

This is a problem hand for C3 - Alternate Auction:

1 - 2 -
2 (SAB-3) - 2NT (exactly 2s) -
3 (SAB-3) - 3NT (3 Controls) -
all pass


Please include the spade interference.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 18:48

Without interference:
P - 1
1 - 1NT
2 - 3
3 - 3NT
P

P = Forcing
1 = Ask
1 = 15-18 points
1NT = GF
2, 3 = natural
3 = probe
3NT = clubs stopped

With interference:

P - 1 (1)
2 (2) 3
3 - 3NT

2 = 15-18, 5 hearts
3 = GF, natural
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Posted 2014-May-16, 21:51

1 - 1 (diams or bal) - (2)
Pass - 3 (5+/4 forcing)
3 - 3
3nt - Pass

It's hard for opener to make a real move towards slam here given the range of our 1 response; responder has a total maximum. Perhaps responder can/should do something, but with a flat 11 opposite what's probably 17-19 balanced it's not clear to push on there either.
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Posted 2014-May-17, 19:30

 straube, on 2014-May-16, 17:37, said:

Please include the spade interference.

Done, see original edited post above.
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Posted 2014-May-19, 01:52

I would open a SNT playing Polish and likely reach a quiet 3N, but assuming an upgrade...
1C[Polish] 1D[weak, or intermediate with minor(s), or rare GFs] (1S); 2H[strong] (2S) X[(54)+ minors]; 2N 3D; 4D[optional RKC]-5D[2+Q] and I'll probably bid 6 hoping for a favourable heart position.
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Posted 2014-May-20, 01:29

1(standard)-2(either 6-9 6+ or some invite)
2NT(bal or 4, 16+)-3NT

Don't think east will interfere here.
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