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Deal #37 AKJ 85 AQJ5 Q954

#1 User is offline   straube 

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Posted 2014-May-14, 01:33

You are South and dealer. Imps. Favorable. West overcalls 2C.


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Posted 2014-May-14, 03:26

1♣-(2♣)-2spades,(16+, 5-7
3clubs-4spades -(inv, accept)
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Posted 2014-May-14, 05:22

Silent Club:

1♣-(2♣)-X-(p) strong; natural; GF takeout (stretching a bit in competition)
2N-3♠
4♠-p
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Posted 2014-May-14, 05:43

Pet two-way pass:

pass(1) 1♣(2) pass(3) pass
1NT(4) 2♣(5) dbl(6) pass
pass(7) pass

(1) 0-8 or 15+
(2) I guess West opens this..?
(3) Overcalls only on hands of 9+, i.e. which would be GF opposite the strong pass variant.
(4) 15-17
(5) Assuming West insists on showing his clubs..?
(6) Stayman
(7) What else?

Not sure what this would fare... Probably North will blow a trick on the heart lead. We'll probably get 7 or 8 tricks, so it's borderline.
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Posted 2014-May-14, 10:21

1♣ - (2♣) - 2♠ (16+; overcall; natural GF)
4♠

Note that North other option was to bid X as 5-7, but with shortness in their suit and no wasted values, it seems best to stretch and ensure a comfortable rebid over further competition.
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Posted 2014-May-14, 13:32

P - (1♣) - 1♠
2NT - 3♥
4♠

P = Forcing
1♣ = I guess since 1♣ is available
1♠ = 8-11, this is sort of a stretch but shortness in clubs…
2NT = GF (good 16+), stopper
3♥ = 5-4 in majors exactly, minimum
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Posted 2014-May-14, 16:53

I must be getting old. My mundane auction involves a 1NT open, negative double, 2S rebid, and jump to game.
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Posted 2014-May-14, 17:02

 kenrexford, on 2014-May-14, 16:53, said:

I must be getting old. My mundane auction involves a 1NT open, negative double, 2S rebid, and jump to game.


No. We're looking at strong club auctions and many of us are using a 14-16 NT so this hand qualifies. Btw this deal was actually played.

I've learned a lot from these threads and even switched strong club structures as a result. If you have a strong club system you like, maybe you can post how your bidding would go.
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Posted 2014-May-14, 21:50

C3: Copious Canape Club

1♣ - 1NT (G.F. Majors or any 5-5) -
2♣ (Asking) - 2♥ (5♠ & 4♥) -
2♠ (Asking) - 2NT (singleton ♣) -
3♠ (Beta) - 3NT (1-2 Controls) -
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Posted 2014-May-15, 00:41

 straube, on 2014-May-14, 17:02, said:

No. We're looking at strong club auctions and many of us are using a 14-16 NT so this hand qualifies. Btw this deal was actually played.


This is a 1NT bid in my version of Blue Team Club, and also in the classic version.
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Posted 2014-May-15, 07:14

 straube, on 2014-May-14, 17:02, said:

No. We're looking at strong club auctions and many of us are using a 14-16 NT so this hand qualifies. Btw this deal was actually played.

I've learned a lot from these threads and even switched strong club structures as a result. If you have a strong club system you like, maybe you can post how your bidding would go.


Oh. I've been submitting some two-way forcing pass auctions in the threads. Are these of any use to you?
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Posted 2014-May-15, 12:01

 whereagles, on 2014-May-15, 07:14, said:

Oh. I've been submitting some two-way forcing pass auctions in the threads. Are these of any use to you?


My goal is to compare and learn from strong club systems, but feel free. We've had Polish etc club and I think the forum members have taken an interest in non-club systems as well.
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Posted 2014-May-15, 23:05

SNT, TO X.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 00:12

A lot of possibilities here...

How about:

1♣ (16+) - (2♣ overcall) - Dbl (takeout 5+ hcp)
Pass

Or opener can rebid:

2♦ - 2♠ (flexible hand)
3♠ - 4♠
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Posted 2014-May-16, 02:29

 straube, on 2014-May-15, 12:01, said:

My goal is to compare and learn from strong club systems, but feel free. We've had Polish etc club and I think the forum members have taken an interest in non-club systems as well.


Ok. I'll keep posting then. Thx.
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Posted 2014-May-16, 10:09

1♣(15+nat/bal,21+any)-(2♣)-X(TO)
2♦-2♠(inv)
4♠
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Posted 2014-May-16, 13:29

Lots of choices to make here imo, it could go all sorts of ways. After the 2♣ overcall North can decide to upgrade to a GF hand (which makes things easy) or he can make the systemic Dbl showing 6-7HCP. If he Doubled, then opener can bid 2♦ or 2NT. I prefer 2NT because it gets your HCP range AND shape of your chest. Not sure if I still play system on here, but I guess so...
1♣-(2♣)-Dbl? (16+ ; 6-7HCP)
2NT?-3♣? (balanced 17-18 ; system on? upgrading to GF anyway with muppet stayman? perhaps just 3♠ natural?)
3♥-3NT (no 4/5M ; 5♠-4♥)
4♠-pass (fit ; great)
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