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What you bid(hand1)? 2/1 bidding

Poll: What you bid(hand1)? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid?

  1. Pass (2 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  2. Double (2 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  3. 2 club (20 votes [83.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

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#1 User is offline   Ai Hao 

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Posted 2014-April-12, 21:19

Your hand:
♠T65
♥62
♦K764
♣AT72



Your pd open 1♣,RHO overcalls 1♥, now you bid.
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Posted 2014-April-13, 03:35

2♣ seems ok. You would prefer 5 cards, but the heart doubleton and fine controls should compensate.

This is likely to continue

1C (1H) 2C (2H)

and now pard will bid 3C with 4/5 cards, which suits you fine. With 4333 he'll probably pass, and so will you.
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Posted 2014-April-15, 16:48

This really depends on methods.

What does 1♣-(1♥)-dbl mean in your system?
On what shapes with fewer than 4 clubs can a 1♣ opening be made in your system?
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Posted 2014-April-15, 19:40

X denying 4+S and showing minor cards
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2014-April-15, 20:00

2c no problem yet.
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Posted 2014-April-16, 07:07

As a junior I played a double in this auction as showing a 1♦ response and everything else normal, a Stolen Bid Double if you like. It worked fine and is still (imho) a good method for starting out. Even better is the more modern approach of transfers, where X shows 4+ spades and 1♠ can then be bid with a range of hands of which a weak-ish hand with diamonds is one. Playing the much more popular approach where X shows precisely 4 spades and 1♠ shows 5 or more, you are pretty much stuck between pass and 2♣, with the latter the better choice for the usual minor suit opening rules. If you were to play 1♣ "could be short" in combination wth both X and 1♠ showing spades, well I think you are only left with pass as an option.
(-: Zel :-)
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Posted 2014-April-16, 09:36

Just a comment. I think the approach

1♠ = 4+ spades
dbl = denies 4 spades

is probably the best here. I used to play it and was happy with the results.

The only downside is that it's not mnemonic with the usual lore of "take-out dbl is major-suit oriented".
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Posted 2014-April-17, 02:56

If double or indeed 1S denies 4 or more spades, that is clearly best. But if OP was playing that he would've said so. Therefore I bid 2C.
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Posted 2014-April-22, 01:20

unless you explicitly agreed, that X denies 4 spades, ... given that you
have a natural 1S bid av., X is out.

So either pass or bid 2C, in general it is a good idea to treat the 1C opening
as 4+ in competitive sequences.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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