[dkham]

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It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable.

You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding.

West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks?

[hrothgar]

dkham, on 2014-April-06, 02:51, said:

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It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable.

You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding.

West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks?

The trump lead means that you won't have enough tricks to play for a cross ruff.
No choice but to go after the hearts

[the hog]

I play a h to the j at trick 2. Why? It looks like I may have entry problems and I need the h king as an entry.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

Diam ruff in the short trump hand could be your 10th trick .

[TWO4BRIDGE]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-April-06, 07:04, said:

Diam ruff in the short trump hand could be your 10th trick .

There is a flaw.
Opp may lead a third round of trump, thus eliminating the Diam ruff.
You could still try for the ruff, but you may have to fallback on the Ht finesse .

[PhilKing]

The auction matters - I need to know what West knew when he led a low trump. On the assumption that North opened 1♥, West is either short in hearts or has them well held himself. Since I probably can't make it in the former case, I will play West for QTxx or similar. I will need more luck than that - I need trumps to be 3-3 in most scenarios. So:

Trick 1 - ♠K, assuming that holds ...
trick 2 - ♦

How things go from there is up to the defence. If they win and play trump trump, I will go with my original read and take the heart finesse. This may lead to an overtrick or down two.

If they continues diamonds, I need to be careful, but essentially I can always get home if my read is correct.

[dkham]

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In response to PhilKing, here's the full auction. 3♦ was Fourth Suit Forcing.
I think by the end we've both shown our full shape - North has shown exactly 3514 (or maybe has a 5th Club) and South exactly 4234 with a poor Diamond stop.

If you play the ♠K on the first trick it does hold.

[whereagles]

Moysians are usually played via the side suit. So ♠K, ruff a heart and take it from there.

[maumag]

I play for spade 3-3, clubs 3-2 and heart 4-2 so i suppose to have 9 triks 3 spade, 2 heart, 4 clubs, i need only 1 trick, so i play K and A of heart and heart and i discard a daimod. Now the defence can play daimod and daimond and i cut in dummy my 10 tricks, or play spade and i cut another heart.

[PhilKing]

maumag, on 2014-April-07, 13:27, said:

I play for spade 3-3, clubs 3-2 and heart 4-2 so i suppose to have 9 triks 3 spade, 2 heart, 4 clubs, i need only 1 trick, so i play K and A of heart and heart and i discard a daimod. Now the defence can play daimod and daimond and i cut in dummy my 10 tricks, or play spade and i cut another heart.

They just play a fourth round of hearts, tapping the long hand, whilst the other defender pitches clubs. You are at least two off now, I think.

[nige1]

dkham, on 2014-April-06, 02:51, said:

It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable. You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding. West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks?

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The ♠ lead is usually the best defence.
Philkings line seems reasonable.
Gib shows you can make against some 4-2 major breaks. e.g.
v1
4♠ makes on any lead

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v2
4♠ still makes on any lead

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v3
Only a ♠ lead defeats 4♠

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v4
4♠ makes on any lead.

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[jmcilkley]

dkham, on 2014-April-06, 02:51, said:

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It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable.

You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding.

West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks?

You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10

[TWO4BRIDGE]

jmcilkley, on 2014-April-07, 15:51, said:

You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10

Opp may not let you take a Diam ruff .
[♠A and another ... in with ♦ for a possible 3rd ♠ lead ] .

[the hog]

jmcilkley, on 2014-April-07, 15:51, said:

You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10

Except you won't get your D ruff.

[PhilKing]

the hog, on 2014-April-07, 18:05, said:

Except you won't get your D ruff.

But he has indadvertantly kept himself in the game - when the defence clear trumps, he will have to resort to plan B.

A ♦ at trick two keeps us on the tightrope, and we have a (potentially winning) counter whatever they do next.

[dkham]

Here's the full deal:

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West lead the ♠2.

As you can see, trumps are 4-2, Clubs are 4-1, and the Heart finesse is offisde (but they are 3-3).

[nige1]

dkham, on 2014-April-13, 02:10, said:

Here's the full deal:
West lead the ♠2.
As you can see, trumps are 4-2, Clubs are 4-1, and the Heart finesse is offisde (but they are 3-3).

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Gib warns us that prospects are bleak, especialy on a ♠ lead, unless RHO makes the mistake of playing ♠A.