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2NT, showing a hand that would have opened 1NT. I like the positional value of the hearts but hate everything else about this. I would not be surprised if partner has 8-9 HCP and 2NT is still not cold. But I can't pass and I definitely can't double.
What would you bid? No perfect bid. Which is less bad?
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Posted 2014-March-06, 13:03
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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Posted 2014-March-06, 14:53
Tough choice, but I opt for 2 NT.
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Posted 2014-March-06, 16:51
Pass. Not worth a 2N overcall.
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Posted 2014-March-06, 19:24
HighLow21, on 2014-March-06, 13:03, said:
2NT, showing a hand that would have opened 1NT. I like the positional value of the hearts but hate everything else about this. I would not be surprised if partner has 8-9 HCP and 2NT is still not cold. But I can't pass and I definitely can't double.
Why not? Has someone stolen your pass card?
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Posted 2014-March-06, 19:26
Cyberyeti, on 2014-March-06, 06:41, said:
No, but given that you have another K to make up the same 7 points, it makes 2.5.
That is NOT what he said. He said that KJx often produces an extra trick as opposed to AKx. If he meant in the hand, he should have said so.
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Posted 2014-March-06, 19:28
ggwhiz, on 2014-March-06, 10:30, said:
2nt in a heartbeat. When was the last time anybody doubled 2nt on this auction and these colors?
It takes a huge parlay (semi solid minor suit on your left with good values) after a weak 2 that may be shaded by many (most?) partnerships.
As opposed to partner passing it out if they have heart length regardless of values.
Mind you I play systems off here so we can still survive some hands when pard can remove to 3 of a suit, also a hand that they may not be able to balance on.
Not only might we make a partscore or a game, if lho comes in and pard shows some "cards" with a double I'll go for the money on defense.
It takes a huge parlay (semi solid minor suit on your left with good values) after a weak 2 that may be shaded by many (most?) partnerships.
As opposed to partner passing it out if they have heart length regardless of values.
Mind you I play systems off here so we can still survive some hands when pard can remove to 3 of a suit, also a hand that they may not be able to balance on.
Not only might we make a partscore or a game, if lho comes in and pard shows some "cards" with a double I'll go for the money on defense.
When was the last time anybody doubled 2nt on this auction and these colors?
Are you serious???? Often!
Mind you I play systems off here so we can still survive some hands when pard can remove to 3 of a suit, also a hand that they may not be able to balance on.
So how can you bid a suit at the 3 level if you want to force, say "I bid 3C forcing?"
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Posted 2014-March-06, 20:53
2nt. Too dangerous to pass. We'd all, I think, do this with AQx in hearts and on offence this is an equivalent holding almost all the time. I like double less than I like 2NT.
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Posted 2014-March-07, 03:31
Cyberyeti, on 2014-March-06, 11:12, said:
2♥-2N-X you can get out in 3m though
Sure and this hand will be wonderful dummy when LHO is short in hearts as he rates to be.
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Posted 2014-March-07, 05:08
rhm, on 2014-March-07, 03:31, said:
Sure and this hand will be wonderful dummy when LHO is short in hearts as he rates to be.
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Posted 2014-March-07, 05:10
Either 2NT or pass, depending on table and match conditions.
2NT bids your hand in one go, pass stays out of trouble but it loses time.
2NT bids your hand in one go, pass stays out of trouble but it loses time.
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Posted 2014-March-07, 16:57
2 NT
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Posted 2014-March-07, 21:08
the hog, on 2014-March-06, 19:24, said:
Why not? Has someone stolen your pass card?
No... in my view it's the right bid. And the vote tally for this thread seems to confirm it. Pass seems awfully conservative here.
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Posted 2014-March-07, 23:43
I get burned too often in 2NT with this type of hand, and even Vul, passing seems asinine (but could be correct), so I am left with a disgusting X.
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