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#21 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

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Posted 2014-February-23, 15:33

View PostHighLow21, on 2014-February-23, 15:16, said:

No slam here is possible on correct defense due to a lack of major suit entries. Play it out.

6NT makes.
And the other two slams not making are a result of having an unavoidable spade and an additional trump loser no matter which of the major suits are trump. Has nothing to do with major suit entries <_<
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Posted 2014-February-23, 15:50

View PostLord Molyb, on 2014-February-23, 15:33, said:

6NT makes.
And the other two slams not making are a result of having an unavoidable spade and an additional trump loser no matter which of the major suits are trump. Has nothing to do with major suit entries <_<

How exactly do you propose to take the needed 7 major suit tricks if West discards a heart on the 3rd diamond (the squeeze card)? From what I can tell--minor suit led, 10 (not covered), heart to the jack, run the 4 minor suit tricks. On the final diamond, N must throw a spade. W must throw a heart and there it is (I think?)

I suppose the squeeze works if 2 rounds of hearts are run before the squeeze--but only if.

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Posted 2014-February-23, 15:57

View PostHighLow21, on 2014-February-23, 15:50, said:

Yep, you are right.


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Posted 2014-February-23, 16:35

6nt looks reasonably easy given the 4nt bid. Just hook the heart and cash 3 rounds not two before finishing the minor suit winners.

Come down to Axxxx opposite QJx AT and lead a low spade to the Queen. West had to pitch one from KT98 Qx (in the 5-card ending) and is doomed.
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Posted 2014-February-23, 16:38

View Postggwhiz, on 2014-February-23, 16:35, said:

6nt looks reasonably easy. Just hook the heart and cash 3 rounds before finishing the minor suit winners.

Come down to Axxxx opposite QJx AT and lead a low spade to the Queen. West had to pitch one from KT98 Qx (at that point) and is doomed.

Yep I initially missed the point about the repeated heart finesse before the squeeze.

Getting back to the main point of the thread--I can't see how slam is >50% but I am certain 5 of either minor is going down a lot.
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Posted 2014-February-23, 16:47

View PostHighLow21, on 2014-February-23, 16:38, said:

Yep I initially missed the point about the repeated heart finesse before the squeeze.

Getting back to the main point of the thread--I can't see how slam is >50% but I am certain 5 of either minor is going down a lot.


ps. I missed the fact that west should/could cover the heart 10 but then finishing the minors right away toasts his buns.

I bid towards it slowly earlier and would take the money if they bid to the 6 level though.
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Posted 2014-February-23, 16:54

View Postggwhiz, on 2014-February-23, 16:47, said:

ps. I missed the fact that west should/could cover the heart 10 but then finishing the minors right away toasts his buns.

Yes by covering the major suit blockage is dispatched immediately if Q is covered--though as we've seen it can be overcome anyway. I just wouldn't be surprised for many experts to mess up the squeeze due to the major suit entry position and timing issues.
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Posted 2014-February-23, 20:09

I bid 6 at the table, which was followed by 3 passes.


West leads the 8.
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Posted 2014-February-24, 02:00

Simple line: play west for Qxx(x) running 10. Latr cash A to catch stiff King.
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Posted 2014-February-26, 14:56

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-24, 02:00, said:

Simple line: play west for Qxx(x) running 10. Latr cash A to catch stiff King.

East shows out on the first trump but you catch his stiff king of spades. West has 4-5-2-2 so after cashing AK of both minors and finessing the heart twice, you come down to

Cash the QJ and play another. West must win and return a heart into the AT.
If west covers the first heart, win, return to hand and play a low trump towards the J7, finessing against the 8, and concede a spade later.
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Posted 2014-February-26, 22:15

looks like we kill them in 5m if we tap declarer at every possibility
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Posted 2014-March-02, 16:07

View PostFluffy, on 2014-February-26, 22:15, said:

looks like we kill them in 5m if we tap declarer at every possibility

Yep. Give me the money anytime.
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