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Would you double? Why or why not?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2014-February-06, 22:38

All white, MP's:

Qx
J6xxx
Jx
96xx

1-(2)-Pa-(3)
Pa-(3)-Pa-(4)
Pa-(Pa)-?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2014-February-06, 23:17

Feels 110% pass. Looks like they are on a 5-2 or so. We don't have a guaranteed set and if we are beating it there is a good chance they are running to something we REALLY can't defend.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 03:33

Double. Punish them!
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Posted 2014-February-07, 04:18

The opener usually have 2 quick tricks,but for your hand,it is only regarded as 1 trick,so I'm not sure to defeat them,my choice is pass.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 06:30

Double just on the strength of the 9 of clubs which on a good day will prove how clever I am. We may not even be able to contribute ONE defensive trick but maybe partner forgot to double. Why should we tip declarer that the big feature of our hand is his trumps do not break, oh, and we have the 9 of clubs.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 09:18

I made a mistake on the bidding. You had doubled 3 asking for a lead.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2014-February-07, 11:35

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-February-07, 03:33, said:

Double. Punish them!


If the opponents redouble, re-redouble. This may not be legal in bridge, but you can in backgammon, so that's my call. On a very lucky day, this could be +2200 or more. I'll give a full analysis after I get back from buying some lotto tickets.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 11:48

I'd double. How are they going to set up tricks and then use them? What are the odds declarer will NOT lose trump control early on? In my view double stands to lose 170 and stands to gain 50 to 350, and their odds of making it are way less than 50%.
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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Posted 2014-February-07, 11:58

Their chances of going down in this are about 1 in 5 and 1 in 10 if you double.

Double and you deserve to hit the partnership desk in short order.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 12:09

View Postggwhiz, on 2014-February-07, 11:58, said:

Their chances of going down in this are about 1 in 5 and 1 in 10 if you double.

Double and you deserve to hit the partnership desk in short order.

I completely disagree with your assessment.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 16:00

It matters not one whit if you think you can set 4h. The opps may be in a contract they

cannot make due to bad breaks in hearts. That does not mean you can set 7d. The opps

bidding has been unclear as to the length and strength of diamonds and even hearts. It is

generally a very poor idea to x the opps in a contract, even when you "know" they are set) if

there is another plausible place for them to play (nate_m).

pass = 10 x = 1 (there are worse things you can do at this point but not many)





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Posted 2014-February-07, 18:17

View PostHighLow21, on 2014-February-07, 12:09, said:

I completely disagree with your assessment.


Don't forget that missing from the OP is the fact that you doubled their 3 cue bid for the lead! Why you would do that when you are 50% on lead, should show more than this trash and you still haven't got a squeak out of partner.

The 4 bid was offered immediately afterwards so I think they are on a 5-3 fit and partner was silent after a mere opening with (extreme?) heart shortness indicating a minimum.

And I agree with gszes that they may well have missed a slam in diamonds.
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Posted 2014-February-07, 18:29

View Postggwhiz, on 2014-February-07, 11:58, said:

Their chances of going down in this are about 1 in 5 and 1 in 10 if you double.

Double and you deserve to hit the partnership desk in short order.


I completely agree with this statement. Double is absurd.
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Posted 2014-February-20, 11:50

Do we have actual results on this, Hanoi5, or are we left to conjecture and argue about it?
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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Posted 2014-February-25, 04:11

View PostHighLow21, on 2014-February-20, 11:50, said:

Do we have actual results on this, Hanoi5, or are we left to conjecture and argue about it?


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Posted 2014-March-02, 17:09

View PostLurpoa, on 2014-February-25, 04:11, said:

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Seriously Lurpoa, what does this have to do with the post?
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