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You're playing Vanilla Precision in a first time partnership.
TAB and CAB bids are available after a strong club opening, but alpha, beta, etc are not.
The following auction occurs
1C - 1H
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
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Posted 2014-January-19, 09:33
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Posted 2014-January-19, 09:56
Quantitative, W has a doubleton heart, E has 5-5 in the reds with probably 1 spade and 2 clubs, no suit is agreed.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 10:06
As opener has no established range I know of, I rule out quantitative. An analysis of the auction shows partner to be 5224 or 5233 with 3 small diamonds. I would take this as a slam try in diamonds with a question about the quality of the suit.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 11:20
1C - 1H
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
*** What would 4C,4D,4H,4S have meant? I assume those cases are out.
Of course in a new (lightly discussed) partnership,
don't throw a nuanced 4-level bid into this auction.
I'd play it as agreeing diamonds, RKCB.
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
*** What would 4C,4D,4H,4S have meant? I assume those cases are out.
Of course in a new (lightly discussed) partnership,
don't throw a nuanced 4-level bid into this auction.
I'd play it as agreeing diamonds, RKCB.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 13:23
dake50, on 2014-January-19, 11:20, said:
1C - 1H
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
*** What would 4C,4D,4H,4S have meant? I assume those cases are out.
Of course in a new (lightly discussed) partnership,
don't throw a nuanced 4-level bid into this auction.
I'd play it as agreeing diamonds, RKCB.
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
*** What would 4C,4D,4H,4S have meant? I assume those cases are out.
Of course in a new (lightly discussed) partnership,
don't throw a nuanced 4-level bid into this auction.
I'd play it as agreeing diamonds, RKCB.
Surely can just bid 4♦ on the way if that is the case.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 13:25
Winstonm, on 2014-January-19, 10:06, said:
As opener has no established range I know of, I rule out quantitative. An analysis of the auction shows partner to be 5224 or 5233 with 3 small diamonds. I would take this as a slam try in diamonds with a question about the quality of the suit.
16+, he bids 4N because he has 19-20/21, should be 5224 as 5233 he bids 4♦ which should be 3 bad as he didn't do so directly.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 20:12
If it is unclear as to which suit is trumps, 4NT is not RKBC. If opener wanted to know key cards for diamonds, he would have to bid 4D here first.
That being the case, I think that opener is just showing extra values with no strong fit, i.e. quantitative.
That being the case, I think that opener is just showing extra values with no strong fit, i.e. quantitative.
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Posted 2014-January-19, 20:23
hrothgar, on 2014-January-19, 09:33, said:
You're playing Vanilla Precision in a first time partnership.
TAB and CAB bids are available after a strong club opening, but alpha, beta, etc are not.
The following auction occurs
1C - 1H
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
TAB and CAB bids are available after a strong club opening, but alpha, beta, etc are not.
The following auction occurs
1C - 1H
1S - 2D
2N - 3D
3H - 3N
4N
how do you interpret 4N?
Quantitative -- opener could have clearly shown primary ♦ support with 3♦ or could have expressed belated slam interest in ♦ with 4♦. My guess is that opener is 5224 in the blacks with extra values.
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Posted 2014-January-20, 11:12
Cyberyeti, on 2014-January-19, 13:25, said:
16+, he bids 4N because he has 19-20/21, should be 5224 as 5233 he bids 4♦ which should be 3 bad as he didn't do so directly.
Why did opener stop to introduce 2-card heart support and suggest a heart contract?
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