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GIB's keycard problem

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2014-January-08, 04:47



As my ask answer,GIB's 5 showed zero or three key card.Now how to do next? who know how many key card in GIB hand ?
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Posted 2014-January-08, 05:04

Gib assumes that you know how many keycards it has. I think it is good advice, when you are missing 0 or 3 keycards, to assume that you are missing 0. That will be the case most of the time. And if you ae missing 3, the five-level may be too high already.
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Posted 2014-January-08, 06:43

Also this is something that will be addressed, according to georgi. GIB in the future will raise to 6 holding the "or 3" hand.
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Posted 2014-January-08, 07:21

hmmmm …. I think this may be throwing the baby out with the bath water. For example, if partner opens 2NT I know he doesn' t have zero keycards. I might need four keycards for a good slam.
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Posted 2014-January-08, 07:32

You would have to be blacking wood with zero key cards for slam to be bad opposite 3. I suppose it can happen. Indeed I thnk that GIB has done it to me.
Sure, you are not making 5 when partner has zero and you have fewer than 3, but there is a fair chance of getting out undoubled at the 5 level when slam is quite likely to be doubled. If the auction is anywhere near replicated elsewhere in the room that is going to be expensive.
I always thought it was normal to expect responder to raise with 3, but there is a case for Helene's treatment.
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Posted 2015-March-06, 13:02

View Posthelene_t, on 2014-January-08, 07:21, said:

hmmmm …. I think this may be throwing the baby out with the bath water. For example, if partner opens 2NT I know he doesn' t have zero keycards. I might need four keycards for a good slam.

O.K. And what kind of hand should have if with 0 aces (such as Jxxxx etc.) ? I have said in another topic that prefer 3.
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