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You didnt have a weak 2 available.
Whats your call is it close ?
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Did I miss something ? You don't have a weak 2 available.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 00:05
Whats your call is it close ?
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2013-December-22, 03:51
Lefty could have a big hand, so while it's tempting to bid 3♦(at matchpoints) I think it is way too dangerous.
If you choose to play without a weak 2♦ opening, you just have to take your lumps.
If you choose to play without a weak 2♦ opening, you just have to take your lumps.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 04:43
I would have opened 3♦ without blinking. 2♦ now.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 05:09
Even with the option of a weak 2D bid, I would have opened at the 3 level. I'm not sure whether I would pass or bid 2D here - neither option looks clear.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 06:44
Only thing you seem to miss was "expert forum" title imo 
(joke)
2♦ weak not being available is OK.
Being conservative and not opening 3♦ is also OK
What is left now is, pass, 2♦ or 3♦.
Coming from pass does not give you free pass for making funny bids. 2♦ is way too big overbid imo. (Pd is not coming from pass, he just passed over 1♠ those are very different things) Choice will be between 3 dia and pass. There is no indication yet that they have a fit, pd may be holding bunch of spades,and preempting after opponents opened and responded is much more dangerous, and due to letting them make their bids first and then jumping in has very little to gain, especially for someone who was not brave enough to open it when he had a chance. Bidding 3♦ now is very inconsistent with your previous action.It has lot less to gain and lot more to lose.
To me pass is clear at this point. Even though i don't like my previous action. At worst we may miss a good save, but this is far from being due to our pass now. Imo it will be due to previous pass, if there is any game for them and a save for us.
(joke)2♦ weak not being available is OK.
Being conservative and not opening 3♦ is also OK
What is left now is, pass, 2♦ or 3♦.
Coming from pass does not give you free pass for making funny bids. 2♦ is way too big overbid imo. (Pd is not coming from pass, he just passed over 1♠ those are very different things) Choice will be between 3 dia and pass. There is no indication yet that they have a fit, pd may be holding bunch of spades,and preempting after opponents opened and responded is much more dangerous, and due to letting them make their bids first and then jumping in has very little to gain, especially for someone who was not brave enough to open it when he had a chance. Bidding 3♦ now is very inconsistent with your previous action.It has lot less to gain and lot more to lose.
To me pass is clear at this point. Even though i don't like my previous action. At worst we may miss a good save, but this is far from being due to our pass now. Imo it will be due to previous pass, if there is any game for them and a save for us.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 06:49
3♦ the first time, at these colours a 6-carder is routine. Even 2nd seat.
Pass now but don't hate 2D. The problem is that partner still could be strong and might not take the joke and bid more than the 3D raise, we would be rooting for.
Pass now but don't hate 2D. The problem is that partner still could be strong and might not take the joke and bid more than the 3D raise, we would be rooting for.
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Posted 2013-December-22, 07:52
Pass. I don't want a diamond lead. Would have opened 3d at imps
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Posted 2013-December-23, 00:39
MrAce, on 2013-December-22, 06:44, said:
Only thing you seem to miss was "expert forum" title imo (joke)
(joke)Well. It is surprising some of the topics that have appeared in this forum lately.
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Posted 2013-December-29, 05:38
A bit too late to come in now with crappy hands. The preemptive effect is gone and it's quite useless to bid now imo. If you don't have a weak two available, open a weak three at these colors...
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Posted 2013-December-29, 16:17
I would have opened 3D too but bidding 2D/3D over 1NT is just so obvious, its just too likely you can find a sac over opps game.
North had
Kxxxx
A
A9xx
Axx
and 5D is making 6. Gromov and Dubinin defended against 2H, south had a 3rd chance to bid but was scared they make 4H and passed in the balancing seat.
North had
Kxxxx
A
A9xx
Axx
and 5D is making 6. Gromov and Dubinin defended against 2H, south had a 3rd chance to bid but was scared they make 4H and passed in the balancing seat.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2013-December-30, 05:08
benlessard, on 2013-December-29, 16:17, said:
North had
Kxxxx
A
A9xx
Axx
Kxxxx
A
A9xx
Axx
Just about the average dummy, maybe slightly on the unlucky side.
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Posted 2013-December-30, 06:30
Like others I would have opened 3♦ but have a related question. If you bid 3♦ now shouldn't it show 4 hearts as well, else why on earth did you pass first time?
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Posted 2013-December-30, 07:43
Like others I would have opened 3♦ but have a related question.
If you bid 3 diamonds now shouldn't it show 4 hearts as well, else why on earth did you pass first time? -- Lorne50
*** Me too. A bid not chosen last round, must have been for a reason.
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If you bid 3 diamonds now shouldn't it show 4 hearts as well, else why on earth did you pass first time? -- Lorne50
*** Me too. A bid not chosen last round, must have been for a reason.
Wal-lah. A 4cM not to be lost.
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Posted 2014-January-01, 09:30
benlessard, on 2013-December-29, 16:17, said:
I would have opened 3D too but bidding 2D/3D over 1NT is just so obvious, its just too likely you can find a sac over opps game.
Obviously it is not so obvious, not even close to be obvious except than obvious only to you, if you look at the replies. If replies don't mean anything to you, and the bid over 1 nt is so obvious, why did you ask it anyway ?
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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