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#1 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

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Posted 2013-November-28, 07:44


South is declarer in 6NT and on lead needing 4 of the last 5 tricks. He leads the K
West must keep two spades or declarer will lead a low spade next and win K, AK, K, so he discards a heart.
North follows suit and east must keep two spades or declarer will lead the K next, smothering the queen, and wins T, AK, K, so east discards a heart.
Now declarer plays AK, establishing the 3.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 09:08

Vice squeeze?
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Posted 2013-November-28, 10:08

Looks like it:

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Vice_squeeze

Fun squeeze though. Wonder if you'd be able to read it at the table until you've cashed the DK.

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Posted 2013-November-28, 11:18

I am a bit tired, isn't the third example on the wikipedia wrong?
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Posted 2013-November-28, 14:32

note that the squeeze operates no matter which hand wins the dia trick.
This position is a GUARD squeeze with the only difference being the
spade QJ are in a finesseable position vs behind. I admit I do not
recall seeing the term "vice squeeze" before this.

The fact that the squeeze works does not automatically mean you should
try to play for it because lho might easily be able to pitch a spade from Qx or
Jx and keep hearts covered and you make six by simply leading a heart to dummy
and playing rho for the spade A. I will admit it is easier to get ones name in print
by pulling off the squeeze vs the more plebian spade toward the K play (though
I would consider the squeeze anti percentage unless I had a strong reason for
suspecting lho had the spade A)
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Posted 2013-November-28, 17:19

View PostFluffy, on 2013-November-28, 11:18, said:

I am a bit tired, isn't the third example on the wikipedia wrong?

the four card ending one? West lets go of a heart on the 5 or the K establishes the 8, discard a diamond from dummy, now a heart to the king establishes the ten.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 17:59

ah yeah I was missing 8
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Posted 2013-November-28, 19:13

View Postbgm, on 2013-November-28, 09:08, said:

Vice squeeze?

Agree with bgm.

Another vice double-squeeze
Notrumps.
South to make 3 of the last 4 tricks

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Posted 2013-November-29, 03:14

View Postnige1, on 2013-November-28, 19:13, said:


Agree with bgm.

Another vice double-squeeze
Notrumps.
South to make 3 of the last 4 tricks


To make it a vice squeeze ("where one defender holds cards of equivalent rank which split the declarer's pair of cards in front of him, where his partner has a winner in the suit") you need to change the diagram slightly:



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Posted 2013-November-29, 07:38

View Postrhm, on 2013-November-29, 03:14, said:

To make it a vice squeeze ("where one defender holds cards of equivalent rank which split the declarer's pair of cards in front of him, where his partner has a winner in the suit") you need to change the diagram slightly:



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that doesn't work though, south leads the ace, west lets go of A, east discards J, now declarer must lost +
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Posted 2013-November-29, 07:43

Rainer, in your diagram, can't the defense prevail if W pitches A and E J? Or am I misunderstanding the position?
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Posted 2013-November-29, 07:50

I think this is a vice squeeze that gains TWO tricks.

Notrump. North leads the A, south discards a heart, west must throw a heart. Q is run, east covers the king, south wins the ace and leads to the 9. West is squeezed in the minors.

edit: apparently this isn't a vice squeeze according to a few posts above me? Also fixed diagram, west could throw a club and win a red-suit trick eventually
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