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Posted 2013-November-11, 08:33



A small heart to the King and the Ace of hearts back on the second trick after some thought. You ruff in dummy and East discards a heart on the small club to hand.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-November-11, 09:29

It would be helpful if you told us which small hearts West played on the first 2 tricks in combination with a style of leading.
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Posted 2013-November-11, 11:18

Sorry. I was so happy they hadn't cashed the spades I didn't even check this important fact. West led High-Low, showing a doubleton.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-November-11, 12:37

In that case setting up the diamonds looks correct. So K, club to table, ruff (high), club to table, A or something like that. It feels like there ought to be a way of making it when West has Qxxx too but I cannot see it - will wait for one of the better players to post it.
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Posted 2013-November-11, 12:46

East seems to be 3730 anyway.

Honnor allocation must be A and Q in our left, nothing else makes sense, so no diamond finese.
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Posted 2013-November-11, 13:04

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-November-11, 08:33, said:


A small heart to the King and the Ace of hearts back on the second trick after some thought. You ruff in dummy and East discards a heart on the small club to hand.
Ruff the second , Cross to hand with a (RHO shows out). Cash K. Try Q in case LHO has three (but LHO ruffs and dummy over-ruffs). Ruff a high, hoping that Q is trebleton or shorter..
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Posted 2013-November-11, 17:35

It's easy if clubs 2-1 and diamonds no worse than 4-2. It's also easy if West started with 4 hearts, though I'm guessing they are 2-7 based on what's been said. I'd ruff the heart, cross to K, lead K to A. If 2-1, establish diamonds with 2 high ruffs and lead 3 to 5. If clubs 3-0, we need Q short or 3-3.

Alternatively on finding out that clubs are 3-0 we could opt for the ruffing finesse in . Only problem is that I cannot imagine East has the Q, unless West failed to lead a top spade from AKxx(x).
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Posted 2013-November-13, 04:56

Spade tops are obviously divided.
If West has a doubleton heart and Qxxx there seems no way to make the contract. This is also unlikely because East would probably have introduced his four card spade suit over 2.
So the issue boils down whether to play for diamonds to be 3-3 or East for Qxxx.
If East has Qxxx you must either overtake diamonds or unblock the K and later run the J without cashing the A first, possibly losing to Qx with West.
If East has Qxxx, West has raised hearts with a small doubleton when holding a six card spade suit headed by the king or ace as his only honors card.
Also West would have made three dubious bids with something like Axxxxx, xx xx xxx.
So play West for holding three diamonds or Qx.

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