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Posted 2013-November-13, 15:12

 RSClyde, on 2013-November-13, 06:19, said:

If the hand with the short trump ruffs the 3rd diamond then I can cash the 4th diamond when in dummy because they will be out of trump.

Once again, assuming that trumps are 3-2 and that the short diamond hand had exactly 3 trumps.
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Posted 2013-November-13, 15:54

 HighLow21, on 2013-November-13, 15:12, said:

Once again, assuming that trumps are 3-2 and that the short diamond hand had exactly 3 trumps.


No!

Let's say that trumps are 3-2 and I'm ruffed by the short hand.
He started with 2 trumps.
One round of trumps has already been played thus he's down to 1.
Now he ruffs a diamond, that was his last and now he's out. He can't ruff the 4th diamond because is out of trump.

His partner started with 3 trumps. So after only 2 rounds are played he will still have a trump and I will have no way to return to hand to draw it, that is true. However he is following to the 4th diamond so it doesn't matter.

So who do you want to ruff my 4th diamond: the guy with no trump or the guy who's following suit?
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Posted 2013-November-13, 16:01

 RSClyde, on 2013-November-13, 15:54, said:

No!

Let's say that trumps are 3-2 and I'm ruffed by the short hand.
He started with 2 trumps.
One round of trumps has already been played thus he's down to 1.
Now he ruffs a diamond, that was his last and now he's out. He can't ruff the 4th diamond because is out of trump.

His partner started with 3 trumps. So after only 2 rounds are played he will still have a trump and I will have no way to return to hand to draw it, that is true. However he is following to the 4th diamond so it doesn't matter.

So who do you want to ruff my 4th diamond: the guy with no trump or the guy who's following suit?

OK, what if diamonds are 3-3?
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Posted 2013-November-13, 21:53

 HighLow21, on 2013-November-13, 16:01, said:

OK, what if diamonds are 3-3?

Then no one ruffs the third one.
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Posted 2013-November-13, 23:11

 RSClyde, on 2013-November-13, 21:53, said:

Then no one ruffs the third one.

Then what? Loser-on-winner, getting ruffed? You'll probably make the contract, but again, the line isn't 100%.
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Posted 2013-November-14, 04:14

 HighLow21, on 2013-November-13, 23:11, said:

Then what? Loser-on-winner, getting ruffed? You'll probably make the contract, but again, the line isn't 100%.

Well I've already taken 2 diamond tricks. If I cash the heart then I'm guaranteed 6 trumps and I have 2 aces so there's no "probably" at this point.
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Posted 2013-November-14, 11:20

 RSClyde, on 2013-November-14, 04:14, said:

Well I've already taken 2 diamond tricks. If I cash the heart then I'm guaranteed 6 trumps and I have 2 aces so there's no "probably" at this point.

Again -- overall, you will probably make the contract. Maybe even as high as 90%.
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Posted 2013-November-14, 16:34

 HighLow21, on 2013-November-14, 11:20, said:

Again -- overall, you will probably make the contract. Maybe even as high as 90%.

You asked about diamonds being 3-3, in that case I'll make it 100% of the time.
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Posted 2013-November-15, 03:44

 RSClyde, on 2013-November-14, 16:34, said:

You asked about diamonds being 3-3, in that case I'll make it 100% of the time.

Yes, you do.
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