[benlessard]

I really think FromageGB setup fill a lot of holes

[Zelandakh]

 benlessard, on 2013-November-08, 23:20, said:

How about

1S--???

You are slowly morphing towards my structure:

2NT = mini-splinter in any suit; or in-between (maxi) splinter in any suit (3♣ asks, then 3♦♥ = mini; 3♠ = mini short clubs; 3NT = maxi with side void; 4♣♦ = maxi with singleton; 4♥ = good maxi with singleton; 4♠ = bad maxi with singleton heart)
3♣ = GF raise
3♦ = limit raise (without shortness to splinter)
3♥ = mixed raise
3♠ = preemptive raise
3NT = void splinter somewhere
4♣♦♥ = singleton splinter

You can switch 3♦ and 3♥ as desired - it just depends where you prefer to have a game try. There is obviously 1 step less with 3♣ as a GF raise compared with 2NT but in compensation you have taken out some hands that would have used that route. You can also get more back by using a better structure than normal Jacoby and you are not worse off than the increasingly popular methods using 2NT as limit+. Having both split-range splinters and dividing by singleton/void is wonderful on some hands. The mini-splinters are ok but would be the first thing I removed if I needed to make space for something else.

I have also played jogs' fit jumps and they were also ok. Sometimes they work better than a splinter, sometimes not. In general I think you get better coverage of Responders' hands with the multi-range splinter set-up though.

[nige1]

Charles Outred and I have used this structure which shows voids and splinters economically on a need to know basis so sometimes discloses little of use to opponents.

1♠ - ??

• 2N = Red Splinter or Pudding raise. Then 3♣ = Relay
• 3♣ = ♣ shortage
• 3♦ = ♦ void.
• 3♥ = ♥ void.
• 3♠ = Pre-emptive.

2♠ - 2N -
3♣ - ??

• 3♦ = ♦ splinter
• 3♥ = ♥ splinter
• 3♠ = Pudding raise

2♠ - 3♣ -
3♦ - ??

• 3♥ = ♣ void.
• 3♠ = ♣ splinter.

1♥ - ??

• 2♠ = Minor splinter or pudding raise. Then 2N = Relay
• 2N = ♠ shortage.
• 3♣ = ♣ void
• 3♦ = ♦ void
• 3♥ = Pre-empt

and so on