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#1 User is offline   grosbach 

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Posted 2013-November-02, 09:45

Playing the robots' system, holding



after opening 1 and getting a (forcing) 1 NT response, what should South do?
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Posted 2013-November-02, 09:53

pass
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Posted 2013-November-04, 05:13

Bid 2. Bid game if partner shows 3 card limit raise or bids 2NT. Pass 2,
2 or 3 rebids. Over the unusual 2S, bid NT game. With 3.5 QT this is quite
an excellent minimum 4=5=2=2.
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Posted 2013-November-04, 06:44

2 is kosher. Of course pass could work. What you certainly must not do is bidding 2. Maybe if the heart suit had had four honors....
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Posted 2013-November-04, 17:56

Bid 2C. You cannot pass.
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Posted 2013-November-05, 17:49

What The Hog said. I can have a fair 13 count for a forcing 1NT
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Posted 2013-November-11, 06:17

Hi,

Not answering the question, just adding some question
to answer, which may in the end result in a answer to the
original question.

#1 what hands can be part of the forcing 1NT,
espesially the way, the robots play the forcing NT.

#2 what is the scoring, IMP / MP?

#2.1 would you accept a 2NT rebid and raise to 3NT?
#2.2 would you accept a 3H rebid an raise 3H to 4H?

For game to be good, you need a max. with partner, you
are likely to make 1NT, but may have trouble making 2H
in the 5-2 fit.

#3 Are you afraid, that the reopen the bidding, if you
continue bidding?

With kind regards
Marlowe


PS: I dont have lots of experience playing against GIB,
JLOGIC has, his answer to #1 may have been solely based on
his experience, what 1NT really means.
Of course he also likey to play semiforcing NT, if I remember
his posts, which may also part of the reasons he voted the way
he has.

PSS: Depending on the real intention of the question, it may
have been better, to put this question into the robots part of
the forum.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2013-November-11, 13:40

 mr1303, on 2013-November-05, 17:49, said:

What The Hog said. I can have a fair 13 count for a forcing 1NT


Assuming robot system means you are playing with a robot on BBO then it doesn't matter since it will never have a GF hand for 1N. Admittedly it is possible that 2 people chose to play the robot system but I was basing my answer off of the idea that partner was a gib.
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Posted 2013-November-11, 13:47

 JLOGIC, on 2013-November-11, 13:40, said:

Assuming robot system means you are playing with a robot on BBO then it doesn't matter since it will never have a GF hand for 1N. Admittedly it is possible that 2 people chose to play the robot system but I was basing my answer off of the idea that partner was a gib.

Yes, but the Robot will often have a 3 card limit raise of hearts, and hearts may play MUCH better on this hand than notrump.

But I can see why you might want to pass 1NT, even though it is "technically" forcing.

Personally, I would bid 2 on this hand, and that is what I would do with any live partner unless 1NT was not 100% forcing.
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