[DJNeill]

IMPs fav.

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You have the dubious agreement that at fav, this 2NT could be random noise with "a plan" and you alert it as such, but you do not have much partnership experience - just that partner can be crazy frequently. What is your call, or are you reaching for the TUMS already?

Thanks,
Dan

[kenrexford]

DJNeill, on 2013-October-18, 07:22, said:

IMPs fav.

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You have the dubious agreement that at fav, this 2NT could be random noise with "a plan" and you alert it as such, but you do not have much partnership experience - just that partner can be crazy frequently. What is your call, or are you reaching for the TUMS already?

Thanks,
Dan

You already messed up the auction. This hand CLEARLY calls for a double of 3♦, because (1) you can field any call partner intended to make at the level to which you are now forced, including a penalty pass of 3♦, and (2) you have the fringe benefit of a diamond Ace or King, such that any Rosenkranz-ish principles that might be present or thought to be present are met.

Having passed like a dolt, you are in a pickle. That said, you have stumble-bunnied into a good option. Bid 4♠. That sounds like a spade fragment with long clubs, obviously what you have. The problem is that partner will never play you for x-Ax in the reds, likely suspecting a short diamond instead. The upside is that with a long diamond holding and extreme club shortness, he might opt to play the suspected 3-3 fit in spades and be pleasantly surprised to see the line you take as Declarer.

[TylerE]

Eassssy pass for me. I mean, what's the best that can realistically happen here? -500 in whatever doubled?

[aguahombre]

kenrexford, on 2013-October-18, 08:41, said:

You already messed up the auction. This hand CLEARLY calls for a double of 3♦, because (1) you can field any call partner intended to make at the level to which you are now forced, including a penalty pass of 3♦, and (2) you have the fringe benefit of a diamond Ace or King, such that any Rosenkranz-ish principles that might be present or thought to be present are met.

I am not sure this partnership would "CLEARLY" understand a double of 3♦, and am positive the double is not prepared to field a hand where CHO is the one with long hearts; remember we don't have the hindsight that Opener has a Heart 1-suiter, yet. Nor do we know that CHO intended to make any other call other than pass our suit bid.

Maybe we have already messed up the auction for them rather than for us; I would leave it alone at this point. That jump to 4H is a mild clue that the opponents might not know what they are doing.

[TylerE]

For all we know partner could STILL have a ♥ single suiter.

Suits have split 6-6-1-0 before.

Even more likely if partners one-suiter is only a 5 bagger.

[kenrexford]

aguahombre, on 2013-October-18, 09:05, said:

I am not sure this partnership would "CLEARLY" understand a double of 3♦, and am positive the double is not prepared to field a hand where CHO is the one with long hearts; remember we don't have the hindsight that Opener has a Heart 1-suiter, yet. Nor do we know that CHO intended to make any other call other than pass our suit bid.

Maybe we have already messed up the auction for them rather than for us; I would leave it alone at this point. That jump to 4H is a mild clue that the opponents might not know what they are doing.

Partner's 2NT meant he was prepared to bid 3♥ if he has long hearts. A double of 3♦, therefore, does not commit him to a higher level than he already bought himself. Therefore, we are prepared for any call above 3♦ because 2NT already forced him to those levels, except in diamonds or clubs. The only possible concerns seem to be (1) partner has long diamonds and cannot now bid 3♦, but then passing the double seems fabulous, (2) partner has long clubs, where we have a tremendous fit, (3) partner has some minor two-suiter, where no option fails, (4) partner has a 4-4-4-1 with shortness not in clubs, where we have enough to bid 4♣, or partner has a 4-4-4-1 with short clubs, where 3♠ is acceptable at these colors.

[aguahombre]

kenrexford, on 2013-October-18, 09:52, said:

Partner's 2NT meant he was prepared to bid 3♥ if he has long hearts. A double of 3♦, therefore, does not commit him to a higher level than he already bought himself.

The double commits him to a level which the opponent's 3D bid saved him from. That can't be a good thing if he had hearts where you have no fit. Since the 2NT "might be a pyche", apparently all we was prepared for was for you to scramble --not necessarily to bid something himself at the 3-level.