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Reopening Pass, 3 Diamonds or Double?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2013-October-17, 17:25

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 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2013-October-17, 22:26

I don't like it at all, but I am some way off what I would need for anything other than pass.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 02:10

If you bid 3D here, partner will hang you in 3nt.

I balanced with this shape and point count but with primer suits and went for -300 in 3nt.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 02:51

View Postmr1303, on 2013-October-18, 02:10, said:

If you bid 3D here, partner will hang you in 3nt.

I balanced with this shape and point count but with primer suits and went for -300 in 3nt.

You are correct, except for the portrayal. If you bid 3D here, you will hang in 3NT of your own doing. It is the expected continuation, and could work out well; but I doubt it.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 05:36

I need 2 NT to be natural, so I have no way to show this hand and pass.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 15:08

Reach for the alert card, shake your head and withdraw your hand. Now pull out the 2NT card and look meaningfully at partner, pausing before putting the card down if they do not start moving. Or with screens just pass.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 16:41

I must be a sucker, then since I balance with 3.

If partner, who knows that I am in balancing seat, bids 3N, I expect to make it a goodly number of times.

3 can be bad in itself, let alone 3N, but why get out of bed with that attitude?

Partner knows this is mps and that we are balancing. If your partners frequently put you in no-hope 3N games after this sort of balancing, then I suggest you have a discussion with partner about the meaning of the word 'hang'. He should NOT stretch to bid 3N at mps.
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Posted 2013-October-18, 17:55

I pass because of the vul. Rho hasn't raised. Either the opponents belong in hearts or partner has hearts and spades. If the latter, we're aiming for a narrow target by bidding. +200 from 2s or -200 in 3m are both very big prospects.
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Posted 2013-October-19, 04:54

passing an 11 count at balancing seat with singleton spade would never cross my mind, but if you guys keep giving reason I might rethink of it next time.
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Posted 2013-October-19, 12:20

View PostFluffy, on 2013-October-19, 04:54, said:

passing an 11 count at balancing seat with singleton spade would never cross my mind, but if you guys keep giving reason I might rethink of it next time.

I wouldn't call it an 11-count; it looks like a 9-count with a dubious stiff queen in LHO's suit to me. Partner figures to have 4+ Spades, and couldn't bid 2NT over 2S. He might be just short of that, and it would not be "hanging balancer" --but rather reasonable Bridge to advance with 3NT. Or, LHO is waiting to nail you and partner with (5-4)2-2 has nowhere to go.
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Posted 2013-October-19, 13:15

I'm a 3 bidder on our general partnership principle to bump em up at mp's. This one is about 50-50 to blow up in my face but it's consistent with our approach.
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Posted 2013-October-19, 15:07

Yeah, you've got only 9 working HCP (stiff Q doesn't seem to be worth much in front of a vul 1st seat weak 2).

But the hand is 5-5, so I'm bidding 3 . Partner should take into consideration that 3 may be bid more on distribution than strength.
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Posted 2013-October-20, 06:10

If I balance with 3D and partner bids 3NT I'd expect it to make a lot of the time. That's not my worry about bidding 3D, I'd be much more worried if it ended the auction.
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