[mr1303]

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2 questions.

1) Do you agree with bidding 2C? Or do you prefer double?

Partner's 2D bid doesn't promise anything. It is a question by partnership agreement.

What do you call here?

[broze]

Agree with 2♣. Not a huge fan of making marginal doubles with a distributional hand that is going to be difficult to show if I start with dbl, especially r/w.

Now I make whatever my systemic bid is to show extras with 5-5 Majors. Absent any agreement I'll try 3C and hope p reads it as 5=5=2=1.

[TylerE]

I take the low road. 2♥.

[Cyberyeti]

This is potentially a huge hand, as little as Jxx, xx 8 random small cards gives you some play for game. Partner is not going to evaluate his hand if you bid 2♥. I will bid 2N which I think should be "big 5-5" and if partner signs off I'll respect that.

[TylerE]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-October-09, 08:14, said:

This is potentially a huge hand, as little as Jxx, xx 8 random small cards gives you some play for game.

No it doesn't, unless you're expecting them to be nice and lead ♠, and even then it's a stretch.

[Lord Molyb]

TylerE, on 2013-October-09, 08:47, said:

No it doesn't, unless you're expecting them to be nice and lead ♠, and even then it's a stretch.

how about ♠Jxx ♥xx ♦Axxx ♣xxxx then?

[PhilKing]

I move with 2NT to show a big 5-5+. As pointed out, you need almost nothing for game. 3m would show a 5440 for me (with a big 5431 I double the weak NT).

[CSGibson]

TylerE, on 2013-October-09, 08:47, said:

No it doesn't, unless you're expecting them to be nice and lead ♠, and even then it's a stretch.

AK of hearts, heart ruff felling 3-3 hearts, J of spades catching K 3rd or 2nd onside.

[PhilKing]

CSGibson, on 2013-October-09, 12:17, said:

AK of hearts, heart ruff felling 3-3 hearts, J of spades catching K 3rd or 2nd onside.

And it hearts are 2-4 you are still fine as long as pard has the ♠7 (and you sometimes survive when he has the six) and East is 24xx.

You actually want them not to lead a trump.

[kenrexford]

Not having a way to cheaply show a good major two-suiter is bad. This is of course part of what I discuss in my book, Overcalling Opponent's 1NT, but there are other ways to solve this.

[ggwhiz]

kenrexford, on 2013-October-09, 13:00, said:

but there are other ways to solve this.

Like pass? My partner categorically denies holding 3 cards in either major making game highly against the odds.

Good Lord Molyb, is that a 2♦ bid instead of 2♠?

[kenrexford]

ggwhiz, on 2013-October-09, 14:05, said:

Like pass? My partner categorically denies holding 3 cards in either major making game highly against the odds.

Good Lord Molyb, is that a 2♦ bid instead of 2♠?

That's a very uncooperative partner. Sounds like my partner s.

[Cyberyeti]

TylerE, on 2013-October-09, 08:47, said:

No it doesn't, unless you're expecting them to be nice and lead ♠, and even then it's a stretch.

I only said some play, ♥3-3 and spades 3-2 onside seems to do it.

[Lord Molyb]

ggwhiz, on 2013-October-09, 14:05, said:

Like pass? My partner categorically denies holding 4 cards in either major making game highly against the odds. definitely possible.

Good Lord Molyb, is that a 2♦ bid instead of 2♠?

FYP

[the hog]

I agree with 2NT. You do not need a huge amount for game on this hand. Bidding 2H only is really lame.

[Fluffy]

2♣ over 1NT already shows a good hand, but this hand is even better than that, more because of the shape than the HCP count with a stiff king.

2NT is obvious then.