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Over opponent's weak jump shift when partner has opened

#1 User is offline   hautbois 

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Posted 2013-October-08, 17:23

What are general philosophies over opp's jump overcall? Is there a standard? I can't seem to find a clear treatment in Hardy's 2/1 or BWS, though they could assume the treatment is the same as if partner had not opened.

A specific hand partnership fumbled was:



Assuming double is takeout and new suits are natural, what meaning(s) should 3 have? Club support, looking for a stopper for NT, advance cue bid, any of the above to be clarified by the later auction? Absent a clear partnership agreement, would you just place the contract immediately?
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Posted 2013-October-08, 19:28

I can't change the topic now, but I meant weak jump overcall.
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Posted 2013-October-08, 22:06

We understand.

In general with tough hands we try and x or cuebid.

Later in the bar, late at night, we can inform pard how our bid was excellent.

on this one I will try 3s


I fully expect my next bid will be 4d rkc in c.
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Posted 2013-October-09, 02:35

Also discuss 2N nat or club raise.

I play 3 as strong club raise or looking for stop, if partner bids 3N and you pull to 4 this is a slam try. Can get murky if partner doesn't bid 3N.

I play a 4 card club so maybe what's best for me is not best for you.
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Posted 2013-October-09, 03:08

A direct 3 can be a good club raise and probably is for the majority of players. If just wanting to ask for a spade stop, either X or bid a new suit and rebid 3 on the following round. On the given hand I would to bid 3, which is likely to work regardless of how partner takes it. The alternatives would be 4 (if partner would definitely see that as forcing) or simply asking for key cards (4, 4 or 4NT depending on agreements). The latter is not going to get a warm reception on these forums but may well be the best option with some partners.
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