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The Problem with Religious Moderation From Sam Harris

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Posted 2013-November-28, 06:37

 32519, on 2013-November-28, 06:11, said:



It's a shame you don't like science; but it is not much of a surprise since this is typical of religious fundamentalists. Of course I imagine that some of the latter consider that God created science. This approach seems much more interesting -- why choose one when you can have both?
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Posted 2013-November-28, 09:25

Thanks for the link. Good to see this kind of cooperation on an important project:

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A Jordan-based scientific research project whose members include Iran and the Palestinian Authority has chosen an Israeli as vice president, the candidate's university confirmed.

Scientists from states participating in the project elected Eliezer Rabinovici, a physics professor at Jerusalem's Hebrew University, as vice-president of the Synchrotron-light for Experimental Science and Applications in the Middle East (SESAME), the university told AFP.

Rabinovici will serve alongside a second vice president from Egypt, according to newspaper Haaretz, which did not give his or her name.

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Posted 2013-November-28, 09:50

I had not heard of SESAME so I googled:
http://www.sesame.or...-is-sesame.html

This is very hopeful, both for the science and for the cultural bridge building.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 10:00

 kenberg, on 2013-November-28, 09:50, said:

This is very hopeful, both for the science and for the cultural bridge building.


Very true.
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Posted 2013-December-01, 21:16

 32519, on 2013-November-28, 06:11, said:



From the article:
"We work together towards goals that advance the interests of the entire region... thanks to the trust built between us over many years and without the pressures that dominate the political arena"

Even if you disagree with the science, wouldn't this be worth the money itself?
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Posted 2013-December-01, 21:45

Now we got Bitcoins also being traded on the stock exchange. Here is an extract from the article "In South Africa, the currency is being used for stock market speculation and payments."
You have been warned higher up in this thread: The stock market is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Posted 2013-December-02, 04:03

World trade is now flatlining
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Posted 2013-December-04, 21:40

Trouble coming as Bitcoin fever catches on.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 01:55

The Dark Continent giving you more options to lose your money.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 02:49

32519 you seem to want to make speculation illegal or at best immoral as it serves no good/moral purpose.

I do agree that speculation can often lead to losing money. I do agree speculation is risky.

I look to trains where many many lose money in 1800's
I look to internet where many many lose money in 1900's
I predict many many lose money in computers/robots/medicine in 2000's.

and that is ok...failure is ok.....really ok.
I praise those that took the risk..praise.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 06:27

You may have forgotten why I am posting these links here.

Projects like the LHC are largely being funded with stock market speculations and crashes. The current bull run is being driven by all the cheep money the USA is printing and which can in many instances be borrowed for as little as 0.25%. Much of that cheep money is finding its way into the stock market and is driving up the prices.

On 9/11 (11 September) the market is going to fall further than what it did in 2008. How do I know that? It’s all in the Book of Revelation which Elohim is busy cracking wide open for me.

I am posting these links for the believers, giving them a chance to get out before the disaster strikes. Non-believers have written me off long ago so they wouldn’t pay any attention to this warning anyway. Also I have succeeded in getting myself onto most of their “Ignored User” list so they won’t be reading these posts anyway.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 06:33

 32519, on 2013-December-05, 06:27, said:

On 9/11 (11 September) the market is going to fall further than what it did in 2008. How do I know that? It’s all in the Book of Revelation which Elohim is busy cracking wide open for me.

Where? Show your work please.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 07:20

 gwnn, on 2013-December-05, 06:33, said:

Where? Show your work please.


This would be a good idea, 325, if you want to be believed.

In the meantime, would you be so kind as to ask Elohim whether there are any stocks that will do really well, or if we'd all be better off sticking to bonds.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 10:04

it's a shame there was no bbf when Jesus lived. If there were, he could really have achieved something.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 10:16

 helene_t, on 2013-December-05, 10:04, said:

it's a shame there was no bbf when Jesus lived. If there were, he could really have achieved something.

Let alone facebook. His facebook page would have been very interesting.
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Posted 2013-December-05, 13:08

If you'd come today you could have reached a whole nation.
Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication.

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Posted 2013-December-05, 15:35

 helene_t, on 2013-December-05, 10:04, said:

it's a shame there was no bbf when Jesus lived. If there were, he could really have achieved something.

Funny you say that. My son just got a homework assignment where he needed to tell the Christmas story and mix it with today's language and social media.

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Posted 2013-December-05, 15:56

 Trinidad, on 2013-December-05, 15:35, said:

Funny you say that. My son just got a homework assignment where he needed to tell the Christmas story and mix it with today's language and social media.

@Nerd Balthazar: This is a cool dude, man! Born with this animal stuff. #Bethlehem #Hotels_Overbooked.

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Posted 2013-December-30, 13:03

Two articles about the disturbing results of a new Pew Research Poll:

Washington Post - Republicans growing more skeptical about evolution

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A new Pew Research Center poll shows a widening political gap over theories about how humans came to be, with Republicans growing increasingly skeptical about the idea that humans evolved over time.

Over the last four years, the percentage of Democrats who said they believe in evolution has risen by three points, from 64 percent to 67 percent. But the percentage of Republicans who believe in the theory has dropped 11 points, from 54 percent to 43 percent.

So while there was a 10-point gap in 2009, there is now a 24-point gap.

Pew says similar shifts have not occurred for any other demographics, either racial or religious.


Slate - Republican Acceptance of Evolution Plummets

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A poll released today by the Pew Research Center reveals that acceptance of evolution among Republicans has plummeted in recent years, from 54 percent in 2009 to a jarring 43 percent today. The poll also found that a startling 48 percent of Republicans believe that all living things today have existed in their present form since the start of time.

Democrats and independents fared much better: 67 percent of Democrats accept evolution today (up from 64 percent in 2009), while 65 percent of independents accept it (down from 67 percent in 2013). Overall, 60 percent of Americans accept the basic fact that “humans and other living things have evolved over time,” meaning 40 percent support, to varying degrees, creationism.

But there’s a twist buried in that 60 percent figure. Only half of Americans who accept evolution as fact also accept that it is “due to natural process such as natural selection.”

Somehow, we have got to take the educational system back from the religious whackos.
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Posted 2013-December-30, 13:31

I often wonder who is getting polled. There seem to be a great many polls published, yet I have never once been polled on anything (not counting BBF polls obv).

I also wonder about response bias - are people with a certain opinion more likely to respond?
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