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Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?
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Posted 2013-October-06, 02:59
IMP's, Teams
Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?
Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?
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Posted 2013-October-06, 05:46
I start with double. 3NT is too much of a position here. Partner will usually pass 3NT, and I really need 9 toppers to make on a shovel lead.
If partner bids 4 of a minor, I raise.
If partner bids 4H, I put down the dummy.
If partner bids 4 of a minor, I raise.
If partner bids 4H, I put down the dummy.
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Posted 2013-October-07, 15:53
kgr, on 2013-October-06, 02:59, said:
IMP's, Teams
Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?
Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?
I only bid 3N if I can hold up my ace (preferably twice) or I have a solid minor so I have a chance to run 9 tricks. Dble has several ways to win (including defending 3S*) but 3N needs partner to have a spade stop as well or it is very unlikely to make.
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Posted 2013-October-07, 20:12
kgr, on 2013-October-06, 02:59, said:
- Over (3♠): Double = 10 3N = 7, Pass = 2.
- Over (3♠) Double (Pass) 4m (Pass): 5m = 10, 4N = 6, Pass = 5.
- Over (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♥ (Pass): Pass = 10, 4♠ = 7, 4N = 6.
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Posted 2013-October-08, 12:59
Dbl.
Pass 4H.
Is it ok to pass 4C and cue-bid/raise after 4d? Pushing to game in clubs seems a bit optimistic when partner may have minimum.
Pass 4H.
Is it ok to pass 4C and cue-bid/raise after 4d? Pushing to game in clubs seems a bit optimistic when partner may have minimum.
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Posted 2013-October-08, 13:44
double. 3nt would be crazy.
raise to game/pass 4♥
raise to game/pass 4♥
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Posted 2013-October-08, 13:47
I'm doubling what 1303 said and adding 30 from the nige1 scale.
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Posted 2013-October-08, 15:47
nige1, on 2013-October-07, 20:12, said:
- Over (3♠) Double (Pass) 4m (Pass): 5m = 10, 4N = 6.
I asked four local experts what score they gave after partner bid ♦:
P (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♦ (Pass)
Their total scores were:
- Pass: 30/40
- 5♦: 15/40
amazing that they all four prefer pass, and it seems that everybody here prefers to raise.
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Posted 2013-October-08, 18:01
X and this should be unanimous.
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Posted 2013-October-09, 04:01
kgr, on 2013-October-08, 15:47, said:
I asked four local experts what score they gave after partner bid ♦:
P (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♦ (Pass)
Their total scores were:
- Pass: 30/40
- 5♦: 15/40
amazing that they all four prefer pass, and it seems that everybody here prefers to raise.
P (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♦ (Pass)
Their total scores were:
- Pass: 30/40
- 5♦: 15/40
amazing that they all four prefer pass, and it seems that everybody here prefers to raise.
Give partner Qxxxx in his minor + 3 jacks. Where do you want to be?
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Posted 2013-October-10, 03:01
kgr, on 2013-October-08, 15:47, said:
I asked four local experts what score they gave after partner bid ♦:
P (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♦ (Pass)
Their total scores were:
- Pass: 30/40
- 5♦: 15/40
amazing that they all four prefer pass, and it seems that everybody here prefers to raise.
P (3♠) Double (Pass) 4♦ (Pass)
Their total scores were:
- Pass: 30/40
- 5♦: 15/40
amazing that they all four prefer pass, and it seems that everybody here prefers to raise.
I presume they noticed that their inferior client partners were playing the contract.
and adjusted for that.
The typical poster on BBO has more trust in their normal partners.
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Posted 2013-October-11, 09:11
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5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
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Posted 2013-October-11, 15:01
kgr, on 2013-October-11, 09:11, said:
IMP's, Teams
5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
You did that in an other topic too, don't tell us 5♦ -1. give us the entire hand please and the lead. Are you sure 5♦ was not misplayed ?
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Posted 2013-October-12, 02:55
Hand corrected after verifying with my partner:East had: KQJxxxx=Txx=x=Qx
East did lead ♠K
kgr, on 2013-October-11, 09:11, said:
IMP's, Teams
5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
5♦-1 (West had ♥QJxx and 3c♦)
3NT made at the other table.
MrAce, on 2013-October-11, 15:01, said:
You did that in an other topic too, don't tell us 5♦ -1. give us the entire hand please and the lead. Are you sure 5♦ was not misplayed ?
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Posted 2013-October-12, 03:44
The corrected hand is still a clear Dbl, but I would obviously pass 4♦...
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Posted 2013-October-12, 05:23
That is quite a significant difference.
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Posted 2013-October-12, 13:22
kgr, on 2013-October-12, 02:55, said:
Hand corrected after verifying with my partner:East had: KQJxxxx=Txx=x=Qx
East did lead ♠K
East did lead ♠K
How come you say W had QJxx ♥ while i see J of hearts in my hand ? I am confused, did you mean W had KQxx ♥ ?
If so, I agree with others that this is quite a difference.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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MrAce, on 2013-October-12, 13:22, said:
How come you say W had QJxx ♥ while i see J of hearts in my hand ? I am confused, did you mean W had KQxx ♥ ?
MrAce, on 2013-October-12, 13:22, said:
If so, I agree with others that this is quite a difference.
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Posted 2013-October-13, 02:18
kgr, on 2013-October-13, 01:56, said:
YesAlso in the bidding?
I did not reply previously about the bidding. With the corrected hand, i would double 3♠ and raise 4m to 5 at imps.
With the previous hand (AKxx hearts) i would have doubled and bid 4♠ over 4m.
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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IMP's, Teams
Do you start with 3NT or DBL?
If you DBL and partner bids 4-minor, what then?
If you DBL and partner bids 4♥, then pass?