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#1 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

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Posted 2013-October-03, 18:24


Tame bidding for a goulash, I know, but I had to get you to 5NT :P
West leads the ♦5.
North hand is ♦AKQJT98764 ♣Q84, the diamonds are cut off
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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:21

The diamonds aren't "cut off", you're stuck in dummy. So you're down one in 5NT. On the same ♦5 lead, in 5♦ you make six. But you probably won't get that lead in that contract.
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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:49

If your life depended on making the contract, then duck and hope West has no clubs and the ace of hearts.... (or West has a singleton ace of clubs and no hearts, don't see West passing 5NT with 11 spades though)
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Posted 2013-October-04, 05:08

View Postblackshoe, on 2013-October-04, 04:21, said:

The diamonds aren't "cut off"


He means on the hand diagram, where the ♦4 has been cut off by the hand diagram app thingy.

I quite like manudude03's line of playing for West to be 8=4=1=0. After all, he didn't lead partner's suit...

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Posted 2013-October-04, 10:10

View Postahydra, on 2013-October-04, 05:08, said:

He means on the hand diagram, where the ♦4 has been cut off by the hand diagram app thingy.

I quite like manudude03's line of playing for West to be 8=4=1=0. After all, he didn't lead partner's suit...

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Ah, okay.

It does make this an interesting hand. If ducking works, you probably make an overtrick. If it doesn't, you're going to be down a lot more than one, I think.
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Posted 2013-October-04, 12:42

View Postblackshoe, on 2013-October-04, 10:10, said:

Ah, okay.

It does make this an interesting hand. If ducking works, you probably make an overtrick. If it doesn't, you're going to be down a lot more than one, I think.

you're not making an overtrick unless he switches to a spade and then ducks the ace of hearts after you duck the first trick (which would be nearly as strange than ducking the first trick from ♦AKQJT98764 to a stiff 5)
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