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A hand from the ACBL Instant Matchpoint Pairs

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Posted 2013-October-03, 16:56

View PostArtK78, on 2013-October-03, 08:15, said:

I think that 3♠ is probably the right bid in case partner's big hand is short in spades.

The risk of going above a making 3NT is too great, did you notice opponent's silence? it really makes partner a big underdog for spade shortness.
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Posted 2013-October-03, 17:20

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-October-03, 13:47, said:

3NT is fine from either side, particularly with two heart tens.

Change it to xx, AQx, AQ, KQJxxx and 3♠ gets us to a magnificent 4♣ potentially down one with 3NT making.

3♠ = 4 even on the Nige scale.


If 3N is making with xx opposite Qxx, it doesn't matter what side plays it. B-)
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Posted 2013-October-03, 18:03

View PostWinstonm, on 2013-October-03, 17:20, said:

If 3N is making with xx opposite Qxx, it doesn't matter what side plays it. B-)

Spade lead through the queen?
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Posted 2013-October-03, 18:04

AKTxxx, or AKJxxxx, would beg to differ. And that ain't all that unlikely given that we're opening-18+-pass-6.
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Posted 2013-October-03, 18:40

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-October-03, 13:47, said:

3NT is fine from either side, particularly with two heart tens.

Change it to xx, AQx, AQ, KQJxxx and 3♠ gets us to a magnificent 4♣ potentially down one with 3NT making.

3♠ = 4 even on the Nige scale.


You want it from partners side because a spade lead makes the heart finesse too risky. I held this hand and heard 3 passes and opened 1♣ instead of 2nt. We got to 3nt with no opponent bidding but played from partners side. On the spade lead partner made 9 tricks for a bad score.
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Posted 2013-October-03, 22:43

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-October-03, 18:03, said:

Spade lead through the queen?


If 3N makes on this layout, it is because the AKxxx is under the Qxx - on a spade lead rise with the queen and run off 9 tricks. If the spades are AJ10xxx, then the suit is blocked, of course, and rising with the Q loses.

However, if partner holds the Kx, then maybe we need to be playing it from his side. If he holds xx, maybe we shouldn't be in 3NT at all. ;)
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Posted 2013-October-04, 00:54

View PostWinstonm, on 2013-October-03, 22:43, said:

If 3N makes on this layout, it is because the AKxxx is under the Qxx - on a spade lead rise with the queen and run off 9 tricks. If the spades are AJ10xxx, then the suit is blocked, of course, and rising with the Q loses.

However, if partner holds the Kx, then maybe we need to be playing it from his side. If he holds xx, maybe we shouldn't be in 3NT at all. ;)


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Posted 2013-October-04, 03:03

View PostMbodell, on 2013-October-03, 18:40, said:

You want it from partners side because a spade lead makes the heart finesse too risky.

That doesn't seem consistent with ArtK's statement that partner has ♠Kx. What was partner's hand?
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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:23

View PostMbodell, on 2013-October-03, 18:40, said:

You want it from partners side because a spade lead makes the heart finesse too risky. I held this hand and heard 3 passes and opened 1♣ instead of 2nt. We got to 3nt with no opponent bidding but played from partners side. On the spade lead partner made 9 tricks for a bad score.


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Posted 2013-October-04, 05:47

This was the hand:


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Posted 2013-October-04, 05:56

If they're going to lead a spade it doesn't matter which way up we play it.

Edit: Except that there's a random benefit to playing it from the weak hand. When East doesn't lead a top diamond, he probably doesn't have KQJ, so we can be more confident about the heart finesse.
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