[broze]

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1) How do you play on the lead of the ♣King?

2) How do you play on the lead of the 8♠?

[broze]

Hmm, perhaps this would have got more hits on the expert forum.

I think on a club lead you can go after either hearts or clubs but on a trump lead you need somethingout good to happen in the heart suit where there are a few extra chances as well. I couldn't work it all out at the table.

Comments on the bidding also welcome.

[nige1]

broze, on 2013-October-01, 17:02, said:

1) How do you play on the lead of the ♣King?
2) How do you play on the lead of the 8♠?

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My guess: on either lead
♠A, ♣A chucking a ♦, ♥A, ruff a ♥ high, ruff a ♣, ruff a ♥ high, ♠QT, ♥s.
Making if ♠3-2 and ♥ 3-3 or ♥KQ doubleton.
Otherwise you hope player with long ♠/♥ is left only with ♦, including ♦K.

[johnu]

1. Ruff a club, ♥A, ruff a heart low, ruff a club, cross with a trump, ruff a club, cross with ♦A. Try to draw trump, and run clubs. This needs 3-2 trumps and 4-3 clubs with 4-3 clubs being 62%. I'm worried about the club lead which is probably more likely to be from 5+ than normal but it probably is still better than playing for a favorable heart distribution.

2. On a spade lead, you don't have the entries to try clubs, so you'll have to try to ruff out hearts.

[nige1]

johnu, on 2013-October-05, 11:24, said:

1. Ruff a club, ♥A, ruff a heart low, ruff a club, cross with a trump, ruff a club, cross with ♦A. Try to draw trump, and run clubs. This needs 3-2 trumps and 4-3 clubs with 4-3 clubs being 62%. I'm worried about the club lead which is probably more likely to be from 5+ than normal but it probably is still better than playing for a favorable heart distribution.
2. On a spade lead, you don't have the entries to try clubs, so you'll have to try to ruff out hearts.

On a ♣ lead, JohnU's line seems better. After winning ♣A, ruff a ♣, cash ♥A, ruff a ♥. Now, If ♥KQ appear doubleton, you can revert to setting up ♥.

[johnu]

nige1, on 2013-October-07, 21:14, said:

On a ♣ lead, JohnU's line seems better. After winning ♣A, ruff a ♣, cash ♥A, ruff a ♥. Now, If ♥KQ appear doubleton, you can revert to setting up ♥.

You can't afford to ruff a heart low since you don't have the entries in dummy to ruff another heart, and get back to draw trumps. If you ruff high, and you don't get ♥KQ tight (would West make a no cost false card with KQ9x, (or maybe has K or Q singleton) with clubs 4-3?) you don't have the entries to set up clubs.

[nige1]

nige1, on 2013-October-07, 21:14, said:

On a ♣ lead, JohnU's line seems better. After winning ♣A, ruff a ♣, cash ♥A, ruff a ♥. Now, If ♥KQ appear doubleton, you can revert to setting up ♥.

johnu, on 2013-October-08, 19:11, said:

You can't afford to ruff a heart low since you don't have the entries in dummy to ruff another heart, and get back to draw trumps. If you ruff high, and you don't get ♥KQ tight (would West make a no cost false card with KQ9x, (or maybe has K or Q singleton) with clubs 4-3?) you don't have the entries to set up clubs.

Good points. Although If LHO has a singleton ♥ then it's hard to make. So, if you place him with long ♣, you might hope LHO has doubleton ♥KQ or is false-carding from ♥KQx. Anyway, there's definite extra chance when ♥KQ appear from RHO: ♣A, ruff a ♣, ♥A (RHO follows with ♥Q), ♥x (RHO follows with ♥K). Now you ruff high and set up hearts.