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How many spades? Opener's rebid

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2013-October-02, 13:41



Imp pairs.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2013-October-02, 13:44

losing trick count says 2♠ and I only have a 13 count but I like my aces so I'm still thinking.
Probably will bid 2♠ at the table though.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 13:48

If I've fidgeted or broke tempo enough to give partner a problem, then 4s. 3s if I'm in tempo. 4s will make often enough opposite random near minimums to be worth it at imps, but partner can see the colors and form of scoring too. If any regular partner of mine passes 3s, we're likely going set there. :)
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:01

I am bidding 3♠ despite my 7 losers.

I suspect that all of my cards are working, and my fourth spade may be pulling extra weight.

Too good of a hand to bid a weasly 2♠. Could produce a game opposite AQxx x xxxx xxxx.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:04

 trevahound, on 2013-October-02, 13:48, said:

If I've fidgeted or broke tempo enough to give partner a problem, then 4s. 3s if I'm in tempo. 4s will make often enough opposite random near minimums to be worth it at imps, but partner can see the colors and form of scoring too. If any regular partner of mine passes 3s, we're likely going set there. :)

I'm never going to be breaking tempo here as I would have thought about my likely rebids beforehand. I agree with 3♠, though.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:17

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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:25

3S it is (I do rather like 5431 hands).

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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:26

Easy 2♠ for me. Not close to a 3♠ call. I like my jump raise to be good..espeically at IMPs... I want partner to feel about raising that to game frequently, which he can't If I'm bidding 3♠ on hands like this.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:27

3♠. Why? Because I have a six-loser hand.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:39

 PhilKing, on 2013-October-02, 14:27, said:

3♠. Why? Because I have a six-loser hand.


2♠ is plenty. The opponents passing suggests pard may have tickets over there and I trust them to do the right thing as opposed to getting us too high if I overbid.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 14:45

I think the people advocating 3♠ are vastly overrating the value of the A♣ singleton.

If the hand was ♠KJxx ♥AJ9xx ♦Axx ♣x that would be a lot closer to a 3♠ (although to me, still not quite there...turn either J into a Q and I'd bid 3)
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Posted 2013-October-02, 16:01

I don't think it is close. I am showing an opening hand with 4-5 in the majors by rebidding 2S. Add a King somewhere, and then I show more (O.K., just add the Spade queen).
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Posted 2013-October-02, 16:25

2s looks like a 6.5 adjusted loser hand to me, nothing more

partner should invite with an 8 loser hand for sure at imps.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 17:35

2♠. I think its a max for the bid, though, and if I were playing precision or another light opening system it would be a 3♠ call.
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Posted 2013-October-02, 17:55

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Posted 2013-October-04, 01:31

3♠ seems right.

Not unreasonable to evaluate our hand as 16 points with 3 aces, a 10 and a singleton. I don't want to miss a vulnerable game.
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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:06

Vulnerable at imps? Definitely 3♠.
I agree with 2♠ at Matchpoints.

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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:47

2♠, stiff Ace + bad trumps.... Not close for me
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Posted 2013-October-04, 04:50

With a 2 1/2 spade bid unavailable I will take the low road with a simple raise. Bidding 3 partner will advance to game with an excuse, which may prove costly. I would reconsider if that stiff ace was in the trump suit. If responder holds poor trumps they may not be able to develop H tricks. I have a terrific mitt facing any game try and do not expect to miss many game raising to 2S.
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Posted 2013-October-04, 17:16

depends on system, if 2♠ shows 4 spades then 2♠ is plenty, if you don't bid 2 with this hand you will never accept a game invitation. If 2♠ could be 3 card raise then you've gotta split this hand into the upper range.
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