[cnszsun]

Bidding:
1C-(X)-XX-(2S)
X

I used to play double by either player after card-showing redouble as penalty. When i was watching recent vugraph broadcasting from Australian, i found some play it as take-out. Is there good reason to play it like this?

[jikl]

They are in a forcing auction. They are playing that the player with the shortage makes the double instead of the other way around to gain some flexibility. I have seen some good escapes from this though, for instance, bid a 2 card suit since they will both be long and they might bid on instead of penalising you.

Sean

[inquiry]

cnszsun, on Jan 23 2005, 09:57 PM, said:

Bidding:
1C-(X)-XX-(2S)
X

I used to play double by either player after card-showing redouble as penalty. When i was watching recent vugraph broadcasting from Australian, i found some play it as take-out. Is there good reason to play it like this?

I like to play Garozzo 2/3 doubles here.. where a double of 2♠ shows two or three spades. With 1 or 4 you pass and wait for partner to reopen. With a void, you cue-bid. If you bid a new suit rather than pass or double, it generally shows a minimum and no desire to double them.

The Garozzo 2/3 double applies to the direct seat where we have shown the majority of hcp. After a direct seat double, partner can pass with length. After a direct seat pass, partner can double with legnth or shortness (but generally not a void). If in doubt, a player with shortness can always just bid on.

Not playing Garozzo 2/3 doubles, you can decide, is double for takeout or penalty. Either works fine as long as you agree, as noted above.

Ben

[Winstonm]

Seems as if almost all experts now use non-penalty doubles far more frequently than penalty doubles - called Do Something Intelligent Doubles.

In the case shown, the original t.o. doubler has shown the major and over the redouble most good players use the jump as a blocking bid, an interference bid, and in relative safety due to their known(usually 9-card) fit. We won't get rich doubling for penalty at the 2-level when the opps have an 8 or 9 card fit, so the best use of the double here is card-showing: says," I have too much to pass but no clear bid: Do Something Intelligent Pard."

WinstonM

[luis]

I like to play doubles after a redoble as penalties when they are Vul and takeout when they are not vuln.
Recently I've been experimenting with 2/3 doubles as Ben suggested but I haven't reached a conclusion about them in my partnership.

Luis

[inquiry]

luis, on Jan 25 2005, 02:03 PM, said:

I like to play doubles after a redoble as penalties when they are Vul and takeout when they are not vuln.
Recently I've been experimenting with 2/3 doubles as Ben suggested but I haven't reached a conclusion about them in my partnership.

Luis

Let me know how they work out for you... so far they have been relativley sucessful for me.

[Gerben47]

This is a situation where I play penalty doubles of non-jump bids and takeout doubles of jump bids like the auction shown. So: take out.