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Will you bid 4S on GP?

#1 User is offline   chasetb 

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Posted 2013-September-19, 12:04

At what vulnerabilities would you bid 4♠ on this auction? I posted it as all Red, but I want to know about all 4.


Same question, but what about this auction?


For those who care, this was with GIB Basic bots, and here is the hand.
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Posted 2013-September-19, 12:16

I wouldn't even think about 4♠ in any of the given situations.
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Posted 2013-September-19, 12:17

I wouldn't bid 4S at any colors in either spot.

edit: d'oh, my pony is appx 1 minute slower than that of mg.
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Posted 2013-September-19, 12:44

none

of course it will sometimes work but not often enough for me.

it has three ways to lose

we go 800 ... ouch

we could beat them in 4 especially if I keep my mouth shut (I mean RHO may have only a game invite on the 1st hand according to the OP, and dummy may have a misfitting hand with spade values, so while game will usually make their way, it isn't a slam dunk)

we could be defending 5♥ with partner now making a terrible lead from say Kx or Kxx in spades, with a safer and more common lead had we not bid.


So 3 ways to lose, one way to win, and no clear reason to think that the latter outweighs the former.
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Posted 2013-September-19, 12:46

Never ever and particularly insulting to partner on the first. Since it's a bot probably called for.
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