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Forcing or Non-Forcing 3D?

#1 User is offline   cargobeep 

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Posted 2013-August-16, 17:10


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Posted 2013-August-16, 17:17

Almost forcing. This is an invitation to game in spades based on the existence of a possible double fit in diamonds. I suppose it can be passed with an absolute minimum with only 3 spades.

EDIT: I take that back; mike777 has a good point. Well, I might gamble and pass the bid with an absolute dreck, but I'd think of that as passing a forcing bid against agreements.
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Posted 2013-August-16, 19:13

I dare not pass, 3d may be the start of a slam auction, not just a game try.
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Posted 2013-August-18, 17:19

Well, I doubt a beginner partner would dare try 3 if he had a slam try. ;) Therefore I support akwoo's original answer.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 04:55

It's forcing to 3, you can never pass it. You treat it as a game try for now (partner's looking if you can cover diamond losers) until clarified later.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 06:29

You may find it useful to have a blanket agreement that all auctions of the form ABBA are forcing.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 07:05

I find it difficult to see the black suit symbols. If the auction was a major suit raise from opening hand 3D is 100% Forcing.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 09:10

While the suggested rule that all ABBA auctions should be forcing is a good one, there is a difference between auctions where A is a minor and where A is a major. If A is a minor then the sequence should always be forcing. If A is a major then you can agree for it to be forcing too but the default in many systems is not-forcing (showing a 3 card limit raise with a good side suit). Of course, many systems have 1M - 2m; 3m show extras, and in that case the default there is obviously forcing too.
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