[ahydra]

♠Ax ♥J ♦AQxxx ♣AKxxx

Both vul at IMPs. What do you do after (1H)-1S-(p)? (2H = good spade raise, 3m = fit jump, 3H = ask stop, 4x SPL, NT bids natural)

What if your hearts were Jx and your spades the singleton Ace?

ahydra

[PhilKing]

I make a forcing bid in a minor. Please don't tell me that is not possible, or I will go on tilt.

[mikeh]

When you play methods that make it impossible to show this hand type, then you can't show the hand type.

If 2♦ is forcing, which is how I have always played it and still play it, then this is trivial.

If 2♦ is constructive but non-forcing (a treatment that I think is probably better, but I play with old guys like me), such that partner will pass with a minimum, then you can try 2♦ and pray, or (it seems to me) you can bid 2♥ and pray. I'd choose the former, since the latter endplays you yet again should partner make the almost inevitable 2♠ bid. Now 3m presumably is a game try in spades, not a suit. At least if he bids over 2♦, you can bid something else...maybe cue hearts next time?

Since all studies done on the power of prayer demonstrate that prayer does no good, I suspect that you won't be happy with the result no matter which horrible choice you choose to inflict upon your partnership.

[ahydra]

PhilKing, on 2013-August-09, 17:23, said:

I make a forcing bid in a minor. Please don't tell me that is not possible, or I will go on tilt.

<hides round a corner>

... new suits are encouraging but not forcing.

<sheepishly pokes head back out>

ahydra

[mike777]

2h, no problem yet.

will rebid a forcing 3c if pard rebids 2s or 2nt.

[PhilKing]

ahydra, on 2013-August-09, 17:27, said:

<hides round a corner>

... new suits are encouraging but not forcing.

<sheepishly pokes head back out>

ahydra

When 3rd seat passes, I don't think fit jumps are necessary, so if you want to play 2m as constructive, then 3m should show a powerhouse.

So on this hand, a jump to 3♣ covers most options (but not as many as a forcing 2♦).

[Mbodell]

I think it is good to play 2m as F1 by UPH in this spot. We used to play NFC but changed it after a few too many spots like this (more generally we play transfer advances, but new suits below the cue F1 by UPH).

[EricK]

Under these conditions I bid 3♥ asking for a stop.

[mr1303]

I'm going to bid 2H regardless. If partner gets excited he should not be disappointed with this dummy.

[Codo]

Mbodell, on 2013-August-09, 17:52, said:

I think it is good to play 2m as F1 by UPH in this spot. We used to play NFC but changed it after a few too many spots like this (more generally we play transfer advances, but new suits below the cue F1 by UPH).

Yes my usual 18 HCPS hand after partner overcalled... I very much prefer non forcing to forcing here.
If 2 m is nf and 3 m is a fitjump, I bid 2♥. IF I can bid 2 NT to show this hand type over partners 2 ♠ bid, I will choose it. If this is natural, I choose a minor...