[1eyedjack]

MP, robot tourney, best hand South, Traveller 9817-1373080921-60121704

---

2S is described as "6+S, 14-18 total points". I do not object to the explanation. I do object to the bid.
Granted that N might reasonably expect to find 4 H on his right (indeed the explanation of the X so promises), I would still prefer a 2H bid by N over 2S. I prefer Pass over 2S.

Mine was not the only peculiar auction. Other tables started the same way, but South decided to pass, and then West pulled the double to 3C, having effectively described his hand on the previous round with X. East is fully aware that West is a passed hand when deciding to axe 2S. West should respect that, in my opinion.

Not sure that I like East's X of 2N. Well, it worked, so perhaps I can't complain too loudly. I came within a hair's breadth of making, but hey, it wasn't IMPs so I let it off that one.

[georgi]

Thanks for reporting.

Fixed in next version v28. So North ( in this hand ) won't rebid opened major pretending its longer 6+ especially with the weak hand here.

Currently 2♥ for GIB is cuebid as West has already showed hearts ( natural length 4+ ).

Book bid for GIB is pass with North hand as no good bid ( no minor to bid to proceed ). West has promised 3+ in both minors but 3+ is length which GIB could/would ignore while 4+ and you are reaching level to declare where you would be likely defend if pass.

Also after 2♥ partner with 22(45) or worse 1255 will be kind hard, while pass would let partner pick better contract. Or if East decides to run away it would be good for N/S in all cases assuming South doesn't have fit in the opened major.

With no double 2♥ comes automatically, but here double should help and change somehow the picture.

[Antrax]

Cue bid for what? Shouldn't XX be the "I'm strong, let's get them" bid and everything else natural?

[georgi]

Would be addressed, but currently:

XX is 17+ and not yet GF if partner is min.

bidding in their suit ( promised 4+ ) is 19+ and GF.

Bidding minor is natural, just 4+ instead of 3+ with no intervene.

[Stephen Tu]

georgi, on 2013-July-22, 07:02, said:

Currently 2♥ for GIB is cuebid as West has already showed hearts ( natural length 4+ ).

1. dbl shouldn't guarantee 4+ hearts. 3+ hearts probably. Routine to double with good 13(45) hand.

2. Even if dbl show 4H, 2h should not be cue bid. Just because opp have 4 cd in suit shouldn't make your bid cue bid. Only if they guarantee 5 IMO. So if someone open in major, your bid in that suit is cue. Or if they overcall that suit. But just because they make takeout dbl imply that suit (and esp can be only 3 that suit), or respond to opener 4 cd suit (e.g. 1c-x-1h-?) shouldn't mean your side cannot bid that suit naturally.

Bid opp suit is cue bid when:
1. they promised 5+ in principle (preempt, major opening or any overcall)
2. they open that suit, partner overcalled or takeout dbl, one needs to be able to cue opening suit to create force.
3. opp have shown some sort of fit in suit (responder raises opener, or takeout dbl + advancer shows suit, or something like 1c-p-1nt where 1nt has to have some # of clubs, cue should still michaels)

not cue bid when:
1. they only takeout dbl to imply that suit
2. they respond 1M showing 4+ to 1m, including after takeout dbl (1c-x-1h-2h is natural).
3. (1m)-3m overcall usu natural. Also (1m)-p-(1M)-? 2m & 2M arguably usually natural in U.S.

If you want North to have 5 hearts to bid 2h instead of just 4, that's not totally unreasonable. But if the dbl means he can't even bid 5 cd suit, doesn't that mean you can be talked out of 10 cd heart fit even though hearts are just 3-0? There's really no hand that needs a cue bid of hearts, you can always just redouble, or jump shift, no hand does best to cue bid.