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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2013-July-04, 16:56



..and why?
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Posted 2013-July-04, 17:04

View Postjillybean, on 2013-July-04, 16:56, said:



..and why?


Pass. I doubt we have game, I have two spade tricks and some help in hearts, and I think this is going down, so +200/500 seems like the best shot. I think this is clearer at matchpoints than teams, but I would pass at either form of scoring.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 17:07

Pass. Not sure whose hand it is, but I have a QT and possibly an extra trump trick, and partner should have 3 QTs. Also, if partner is not prepared to hear me pass, he shouldn't have doubled in the first place.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 17:13

clear pass
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Posted 2013-July-04, 17:23

Pass.
Chris and Blackshoe said why.
Would add Colchamiro's Rule of 9 agrees -
When partner has opening hand or better and makes a takeout double,
# Trumps + # Honors in Trumps + Level of opponent's bid > or = 9, pass for penalty.
4 + 2 + 3 = 9
At least there's some additional validation to lean on.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 17:27

I pass, because I doubt we're making game and if we are I think we probably get a better score defending 3♠x anyway.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 18:26

Cohen's LOTT books cover things like this and should convince you that you have to pass her. It doesn't always work or result in a top score, but bidding looks to be wrong a large percentage of the time.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 23:11

Pass, and everything I would have said has already been iterated and reiterated.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 06:48



The title says it all, I completely missed the mark here.
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Posted 2013-July-06, 01:23

Looks like a massacre, you're even lucky ♥ break 3-3 and not 5-1! This was a clear pass indeed, you bring 2 defensive tricks and some help (maybe worth half a trick), your partner doubles Vulnerable at 3-level committing us to 3♠x or the 4-level while you already passed, so his hand is good. The only reasonable alternative to consider imo is 3NT, but that's a huge gamble. So better take the sure plus.
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Posted 2013-July-06, 15:05

I would normally want to bid 3NT with ♠AJxx as the jack works better as a stopper than a defensive value when RHO can easily have 2, but the hand is too weak.
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