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What do you bid here? a supported preempt, partner doubled

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Posted 2013-June-22, 20:07

White vs Red

AQ97
Jx
Qx
JTxxx

(3)-X-(4)-?

What do you play double to be in this position?
What's your call?
After you decide, what if
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 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-June-22, 20:24

I would double, intending to pass 4 and convert 4NT to 5. If partner chooses to pass, he won't have heart shortage and I am happy to defend opposite 4243 or similar.
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Posted 2013-June-22, 20:46

4 needs to be to play, X - penalty, 4N - bid best minor. 5m is to play.
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Posted 2013-June-22, 20:53

X which is not for penalty but is takeout of course. Now I pass 4S and bid 5C over 4NT.
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Posted 2013-June-22, 21:06

View Postthe hog, on 2013-June-22, 20:53, said:

X which is not for penalty but is takeout of course. Now I pass 4S and bid 5C over 4NT.


I agree but I may well bid 4. In my partnership the double of a 3-level bid is NOT a joke.

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Posted 2013-June-24, 14:28

View Postthe hog, on 2013-June-22, 20:53, said:

X which is not for penalty but is takeout of course. Now I pass 4S and bid 5C over 4NT.


right on and if p is not short in hearts 3244 for ex they may well decide to
defend which should be fine for us. It is important when we have the
space to try and tell p the difference btn 4 and 5+ spades. The x should
be reserved for the 4 and 4s for the 5+. Many argue p essentially asked
us to bid 4s but there are a huge number of hands where p has only 3
spades and x is the only convenient call. As for hands that are short in hearts
and have only 3 spades? perhaps 4n is the right call though we may miss some
53 spade fits.
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Posted 2013-June-24, 14:28

View Postthe hog, on 2013-June-22, 20:53, said:

X which is not for penalty but is takeout of course. Now I pass 4S and bid 5C over 4NT.


right on and if p is not short in hearts 3244 for ex they may well decide to
defend which should be fine for us. It is important when we have the
space to try and tell p the difference btn 4 and 5+ spades. The x should
be reserved for the 4 and 4s for the 5+. Many argue p essentially asked
us to bid 4s but there are a huge number of hands where p has only 3
spades and x is the only convenient call. As for hands that are short in hearts
and have only 3 spades? perhaps 4n is the right call though we may miss some
53 spade fits.
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