[Cameron_1]

I am staggered the forum reached as many as 11 replies ...

[CSGibson]

I have what I said I have, with no real unexpected offensive or defensive suprises. I will pass and see what partner wants to do.

[ArtK78]

If partner has as litte as KQJT9x AKxxx A A we are cold for 7NT! I am going to try that.

Seriously, why would anyone do anything other than pass?

[nige1]

lamford, on 2013-June-02, 16:47, said:

Matchpoints.

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IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9, 5♥ = 7. It's close and unless this is a forcing pass context, I quite like FrancesHinden's double.

[Winstonm]

Basically, under this scenario without forcing pass there are two ways to play double: first, as a warning not to bid on, and second as an invitation to bid on.

The hand is much more suit oriented now than when the auction began, so although I have shown my hand I have an opportunity to futher clarify what type hand it is, so I would like to use double as showing a hand where 4H surely would have made.

I think double is called for because this hand is much better suited to play 4H than it could have been.

[ggwhiz]

Double and 5♥ are all eggs in one basket bids and I'm not comfortable with either should we be opposite 4 cards in hearts with bad breaks looming.

Since I don't consider either bid to be clear cut, the decision ALWAYS belongs to pass out seat. In this case a 3rd seat opener could have anything from power to shape with both or a bit of a joke. Is North diving or giving up on slam? Only pard knows.

[MrAce]

I think playing forcing pass and/or playing double for a specific meaning, rather than natural is odd in this auction..

In a competitive auction, where nobody knows who has the strength and everyone bidding, and 1 side reaching 5 level. This is like the border area between El Paso Texas and Juarez Mexico. All bad things happen there and you just can not disable yourself from passing and sitting on a 5 level contract, without your pass indicating anything other than what it actually says

If we play some sort of forcing pass here, i don't see an end to it. We may as well play it everywhere.

"Oh, i have balanced 6 hcp, but my cards seems to fit pd's hand! Lets create a pdship agreement which makes our pass forcing in order to cover these type of hands, in this type of auctions, because forcing passesand/or doubles solves 5 level decisions perfectly !"

In fact, i don't see any bid better than a natural pass here. We are sitting behind 2♣ overcaller, and we would definetely dbl with any numberof ♣ trick(s). If pd is void in clubs, he knows we dont have wasted values there. He is either 5431 6430 5530 5521 etc. In most cases if we held ♦ values instead of ♠ A, that would be useful as well. So pd knows whatever we have will be working, by simply looking at our natural pass.