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1NT overcall conventions need tuning again

#1 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

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Posted 2013-May-16, 14:33

Gib had something like T 9xxxx 7xx Jxxx in fourth chair and the bidding goes (1) - 1NT - (dbl) to it. What does it do? It transfers to hearts!
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Posted 2013-May-17, 03:43

To be honest, I don't think this is that much of an issue. At least dummy might be able to score a ruff or 2 for entries. Any chance of teaching the Gib basic Helvic or something though?
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Posted 2013-May-17, 14:07

I held Kx and a 4-4-3-2 shape, how am I supposed to get ruffs?
edit: ^and that's likely to occur, too.
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Posted 2013-May-17, 15:13

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-May-17, 14:07, said:

I held Kx and a 4-4-3-2 shape, how am I supposed to get ruffs?
edit: ^and that's likely to occur, too.


He said ruffs in *dummy*. The hand with 5 hearts and stiff spade is dummy after transferring. You are likely able to ruff spades to get to dummy for transportation.

Also, it's not impossible to get club ruffs in the 1nt overcalling hand. Hands with Kx, Ax of hearts and 4432 have the usually superior alternative of doubling, instead of bidding 1nt. So hearts could reasonably be 5530, and your best fit despite the bad break.

So running to hearts doesn't seem totally horrible. The more debatable thing is why does it play transfers here. It ought to be able to run to a minor. I forget if it plays rdbl forces 2c on this sequence or not.
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Posted 2013-May-17, 23:48

I think XX is "long minor", so presumably it's transfer to and then it can correct to .
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Posted 2013-May-18, 06:40

View PostAntrax, on 2013-May-17, 23:48, said:

I think XX is "long minor", so presumably it's transfer to and then it can correct to .

It is.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 14:39

Thanks for reporting this.

It would be worked on for next version to be avoided as much as possible partner to drop in trouble 1NT overcaller in exposed major via transfer. Espesically if that's the contract which is about to stay.

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Posted 2013-May-19, 16:39

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-May-17, 14:07, said:

I held Kx and a 4-4-3-2 shape

Sounds like a takeout double to me...
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