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If you have a very strong hand easily 2♣ value and it contains a long minor and either a four card major or minor then you are stuck. Given the way GIB bids then you could be stuck in 1 of a minor if you open that, and if you bid the minor after either a 2D response to 2C or 2NT then there is no way to get the other suit in e.g. if GIB bids 2NT then he can't bid his four card major next. Sure over 2D, you might be able to just put in 3NT but I had 9 top tricks and Gib with values didn't continue.
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An awkward area in GIB bidding Strong long minor
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Posted 2013-May-13, 17:40
cloa513, on 2013-May-13, 16:16, said:
If you have a very strong hand easily 2♣ value and it contains a long minor and either a four card major or minor then you are stuck. Given the way GIB bids then you could be stuck in 1 of a minor if you open that, and if you bid the minor after either a 2D response to 2C or 2NT then there is no way to get the other suit in e.g. if GIB bids 2NT then he can't bid his four card major next. Sure over 2D, you might be able to just put in 3NT but I had 9 top tricks and Gib with values didn't continue.
to be fair when the long suit is clubs it can be very hard to show a side 4 card suit in 2/1. This is just an awkward problem.
Sure someone on bbo has some toy for this but even toys can cause other issues.
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Posted 2013-May-13, 22:05
Fast Reply discarded my reply.
2C,2NT,3C/3D, GIB bids his four card major/ 4/5 card minor with extras. (that's not in GIB system)
2C,2D, 3C/3D, GIB bids his 4/5 card major or non-rebiddable 6 card.
2C,2D,3C, 3D could be a gadget.
Only start with 2C and rebid a long minor with serious extras/distribution.
2C,2NT,3C/3D, GIB bids his four card major/ 4/5 card minor with extras. (that's not in GIB system)
2C,2D, 3C/3D, GIB bids his 4/5 card major or non-rebiddable 6 card.
2C,2D,3C, 3D could be a gadget.
Only start with 2C and rebid a long minor with serious extras/distribution.
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Posted 2013-May-13, 22:12
cloa513, on 2013-May-13, 22:05, said:
Fast Reply discarded my reply.
2C,2NT,3C/3D, GIB bids his four card major/ 4/5 card minor with extras. (that's not in GIB system)
2C,2D, 3C/3D, GIB bids his 4/5 card major or non-rebiddable 6 card.
2C,2D,3C, 3D could be a gadget.
Only start with 2C and rebid a long minor with serious extras/distribution.
2C,2NT,3C/3D, GIB bids his four card major/ 4/5 card minor with extras. (that's not in GIB system)
2C,2D, 3C/3D, GIB bids his 4/5 card major or non-rebiddable 6 card.
2C,2D,3C, 3D could be a gadget.
Only start with 2C and rebid a long minor with serious extras/distribution.
1) bidding 2nt is so rare I will disregard, see rest.
2) SURE if you want pard to bid a 4 card major over 3c but of course this raises other issues.
3) only bid 3c if serious extra...what? I mean 3c normally means a 3 loser hand, what is serious extras?
4) sure 3d over 3c can be some gadget....
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as I said this is just an awkward/tough hand in 2/1; don't blame gib.
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