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what's partner's got this time? and is this bid forcing?

#21 User is offline   PhilKing 

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Posted 2013-May-02, 13:10

View PostArtK78, on 2013-May-02, 13:04, said:

but I would be interested in finding out if partner meant it as takeout.


Given that partner followed up his double with a game-forcing cue bid and a 3♠ bid, I am going to go out on a limb and predict that he meant it as take-out.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 13:50

View PostFluffy, on 2013-May-01, 07:53, said:


I had another dissagreement with my dad, what is a typical hand for north here?, and what do you do now?



That sounds like there was no agreement on the meaning of this double.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 13:57

View Postjogs, on 2013-May-02, 13:50, said:

That sounds like there was no agreement on the meaning of this double.


LOL, if we had no agreement about basic bidding I would refrain from posting on the Expert bridge forum. This problem is not about obvious meanings of the second round, it is about the nuances of 4th bid by opener.


In retrospect I think neither dad nor me got this one right, he though 3♠ was forcing offering a COG, I though at first partner was trying 3NT with solid spades, missing that he would had bid 3♦ the round before with it, but even if he didn't I didn't wanna go any higher.


As it turns out the best contract was 4♣, partner had ♠AKxxxxx ♥KQx ♦- ♣Axx, with spades 1-5 I think nothing makes. A misdefence in 3♠ allowed -1 for a 70% MP score.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 14:49

I would play partner for a strong 6214. Because i dont see any other hands fitting the bill.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 18:39

Missunderstanding Justin doesn't give your reasoning any more weight :), read mike and you will realice why opponents run first 6 tricks in 3NT. Reread Justin and you will see the difference between double+3♦ versus direct 3♦
*** SIMPLY count the tricks in Justin's example hands.
Reread Justin to see this IS A 3NT.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 19:48

Justin was easier to read when it first came down to us on the tablet. Mike's condensed version can be found in hotel rooms.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 20:55

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-May-02, 19:48, said:

Justin was easier to read when it first came down to us on the tablet. Mike's condensed version can be found in hotel rooms.

I'm hurt. I made one of the shortest posts I have ever made and see what agua says about it!!!!
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Posted 2013-May-02, 21:02

Was intended as a compliment.
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Posted 2013-May-02, 23:28

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-May-02, 21:02, said:

Was intended as a compliment.

and mine as a joke:) Damn that need for emoticons!
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Posted 2013-May-03, 22:04

I'd choose to bid 3NT,for I don't know what had happened.Maybe p bid 3D-3S is just to hunt for a suitable game.
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Posted 2013-May-03, 22:08

partner could have :
♠AKQxxx ♥Kx ♦Jx ♣AKxx
or :
♠Axxxx ♥AKx ♦x ♣AKxx
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Posted 2013-May-04, 10:16

View PostGalbrayek, on 2013-May-03, 22:08, said:

partner could have :
♠AKQxxx ♥Kx ♦Jx ♣AKxx
or :
♠Axxxx ♥AKx ♦x ♣AKxx

Your partner could.
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Posted 2013-May-06, 05:27

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♠Axxxx ♥AKx ♦x ♣AKxx

Why would you bid 3S with that ?
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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