[HeartA]

lowerline, on 2013-April-04, 06:45, said:

I would never assume '4th suit with a jump' to be a Splinter without prior agreement... I would have bid a forcing 3♦ with your hand.
Besides, this is not an unnecessary jump because 2♥ would not have been natural (4SF). 3♥ is the only way to bid hearts naturally and to discover a possible 5-3 heart fit. 4♥ is the unnecessary jump and is clearly a Splinter.


Steven

It is true that "2♥ would not have been natural", but it can get some info for holding of ♥ from partner. For example, if partner bid 2NT, I would know she has reasonable ♥ (2-3 cards with honors). Then I can bid 3♥ (or 4) to indicate ♥ is my real suit.

[P_Marlowe]

HeartA, on 2013-April-04, 10:48, said:

It is true that "2♥ would not have been natural", but it can get some info for holding of ♥ from partner. For example, if partner bid 2NT, I would know she has reasonable ♥ (2-3 cards with honors). Then I can bid 3♥ (or 4) to indicate ♥ is my real suit.

The problem with this is, that partner may not bid 2NT, he may make his default response, which may tell you nothing
about his distribution, only that he does not have a stopper.
Discovering a fit in the 4th suit is hard, some dont care, saying it is a rare problem to worry about, they will use
the jump in the 4th suit as splinter, other think it is important and play the jump as 55 inv / gf strength.
I have to say, I never understood inv. strength, but this is a different topic.

For that matter makeing a 3H bid undiscussed in the seq.

1D - 1S
2C - 2H
2NT - 3H

is really asking for trouble.

Finally: it is certainly playable to play, that repeating the 4th suit is showing 55, that the repetition is canceling
the 4th suit forcing meaning of the bid the round before. This is something to discuss with partner.

Hopefully you dont forget to discuss the meaning of

1D - 1S
2C - 2H
3S - 4H

and follow ups, if the 4th suit get raised

1D - 1S
2C - 2H
3H - 4C

and ...

With kind regards
Marlowe

[inquiry]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-April-01, 07:06, said:

p - 1C
1S - 2D
??
.. 2H! = artificial weakness bid ( Lebensohl or Ingberman )
.. 2S = 5+ cards, some play GF; others forcing 1 round
..2NT = natural, GF
.. 3C = natural, GF
.. 3D = natural, GF
.. 3H = 5/5 ♠/♥, GF

After :
3H - 4H

2♥ is a weak bid playing ingberman, 2♥ is essentially 4th suit forcing to game playing lebenshol

3♥ should be splinter and support for one of openers suits (a known one, by partnership agreement, most often openers second suit)

2♠ is either forcing here (ingberman) or not forcing (lebenshol).

2NT is either lebenshol (most often weak) or game force natural (ingberman).

I guess another question would be what is 3♥ if you play neither conventional continuation after the reverse.

[PhilKing]

I'm going to take a deep breath and just let it go this time.