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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2013-May-28, 08:37

Like many of you I play IJS (invitational jump shifts) in nearly all of my partnerships. In spite of this the follow ups are very fuzzy. Use 1 - 3 as a reference.

1. What is the best spade holding responder can have?
2. Is 3 by opener forcing?
3. What is 4m by opener? Cue (spades? Hearts? Ambiguous?) or natural?
4. Do you have a minimum suit quality requirement for 3?

Bonus question: what is your call with KJ9xxx A Kxx AKQ?
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Posted 2013-May-28, 08:40

Look here Phil.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 09:33

Thanks Zel, I missed that. Not a lot of consensus on whether or not 3 if forcing however.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 09:43

With hearts, you virtually always have an invite available if you start with 1n, so I play that 1-3 is 0-1 unless the hearts are internally solid (i.e. if you have a hand that would raise spades after 1-1n-2, start with 1n). In the minors, you don't have so much flexibility, so there's no rule, but you can use your judgment and not bid 1-3 with Hx and AJxxxx.

I think 3 should be forcing, but I've also played NF with some partners, think it doesn't matter so much.

I would bid 4 on the example hand pretty much no matter what my agreeements were.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 09:58

View PostPhil, on 2013-May-28, 09:33, said:

Thanks Zel, I missed that. Not a lot of consensus on whether or not 3 if forcing however.


Who needs consensus? The person who suggested NF now had to play 4m natural and thus had no way to cue bid for hearts.
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Posted 2013-May-29, 01:13

I thought the consensus was clear enough for 3 to be forcing. It was just that once Justin stepped in and said he played it that way, noone else saw the need to come in on the matter. Looking back through the thread, I have to say that I still like my transfer scheme quite a lot; but it is untested since my (currently) preferred meaning for 1 - 3 is as a mixed raise.
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