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Thx, Wayne.... for posting both hands .
I agree that the 3D-jump may show only 4 cards .
And with NO fit for either of Opener's suits, Responder -- with stops in BOTH the unbid AND transportation via the ♦ to Opener's hand -- he should bid the ( usually avoided if possible ) 3NT in these types of auctions.
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Posted 2013-February-11, 07:13
Don Stenmark
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
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Posted 2013-February-11, 07:46
Tough hand, 6m is decent, would be very decent with the addition of a seemingly innocuous 10♦ or J♣. One of the rare hands where 3N makes but is potentially outscored in 5♦. I would just bid 3N over 3♦.
As an aside, I think the 3♥ bid should be natural because most people don't spend the brainpower to play this sort of sequence as different by passed and unpassed hands, and while it's unlikely partner has a LOT of hearts as a passed hand, it's not unlikely for an unpassed hand.
As an aside, I think the 3♥ bid should be natural because most people don't spend the brainpower to play this sort of sequence as different by passed and unpassed hands, and while it's unlikely partner has a LOT of hearts as a passed hand, it's not unlikely for an unpassed hand.
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Posted 2013-February-11, 07:51
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Thx, Wayne.... for posting both hands .
NP, glad to oblidge. Sorry it took so long, it is not easy creating the hand diagram and I have been busy.
Thx, Wayne.... for posting both hands .
NP, glad to oblidge. Sorry it took so long, it is not easy creating the hand diagram and I have been busy.
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Posted 2013-February-12, 02:48
Your partner should indeed have bid 3NT but it is even clearer for you to do so. If your partner pulls this to 4♦ then it is likely that 6♦ will be a good contract.
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Posted 2013-February-12, 04:19
Both should have bid 3NT. 50% blame to your partner and 150% blame to you.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2013-February-12, 11:18
han, on 2013-February-12, 04:19, said:
Both should have bid 3NT. 50% blame to your partner and 150% blame to you.
I realize that my 3♥ bid was not the best, but I posted the survey to see if my partner should have bid 3NT, given the 3♥ bid. The survey results, although not statistically conclusive due to small sample size, indicates most feel partner should have have bid 3NT.
But, in bridge the partner that makes the FIRST mistake in bidding takes the blame for a bad contract. So the blame is mine. Had 4NT made, most likely the hand would have been filed away and forgotten.
I thank all for their input. In the future I will obey Hamman's law.