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Deal #21 J8 6 KQJ7 AKQJT6

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Posted 2013-January-28, 22:01

You are South and dealer. V vs NV. Imps. This deal was played by a local expert pair. If possible, East overcalls 1H. West competes to 3H or cues 3C if available.

............................T5432
............................K832
............................853
............................2
A97.......................................................KQ6
A94.......................................................QJT75
A962.....................................................T4
853.......................................................974
............................J8
............................6
............................KQJ7
............................AKQJT6

Outcomes

3C S SCREAM
3C S Moscito
3H E relknes
3H E Precision by Free
3H E Polish Club
3H E Silent Club
3H E qplus10
3H E Zelandakh
3H E New Big Club (HK)
3C S jack502
3H E OCP
3H E TOSR
3H E Unassuming Club
2S N Malfoir
3H E Imprecision
3H E Meckwell Light

3H E Pass2000 (forcing pass opening)
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Posted 2013-January-28, 22:02

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-28, 22:01, said:


............................T5432
............................K832
............................853
............................2
A97.......................................................KQ6
A94.......................................................QJT75
A962.....................................................T4
853.......................................................974
............................J8
............................6
............................KQJ7
............................AKQJT6


The actual auction went 1C P 1D (1H) 2C (3C) P (3H) 3N P 4C

My guess that 3N showed side diamonds. West was kind not to double.

SCREAM bids this...

1C-1S (16+, DN)
3C-p (to play)
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Posted 2013-January-28, 23:41

I will open 1.
If partner responds with 1, I will bid 2 (16-~21, 5+, no 4+ major if 16-17), intending to raise diamonds, or rebid clubs after a major suit response. Slam is no longer in the picture after partner's 1.
If partner bids 1M (GF, 9+ points, 5+ suit) I will respond with 2 (unbalanced, 5+) intending to bid diamonds later.
If partner bids 1N (9+ points, balanced, GF) I will respond with 3 (setting trump and asking partner to make a reverse-cuebid)
If partner bids 2 (highly unlikely, as it shows 9+ points, 5+ clubs, unbalanced) I will bid 3 (splinter)
If partner bids 2 I will also bid 3 as a splinter.
If partner bids 2M, showing 5-8 points and 6+ in the major and denying 4+ in the other major, I will respond with 3 and continue based on what they show.
If partner makes an "Unusual positive" I will make the key-ask and explore a minor suit slam.

This is obviously a slammish hand, needing 3 working cards to make 6
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Posted 2013-January-28, 23:50

2c nf for me also
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Posted 2013-January-29, 00:55

Start with 2 (15-19) and see where we get from there.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 01:52

Pass 2000

pass - 1C (0-7 / 17+ ; 0-7 / 17+);
(1H) (assuming they would still bid this)
2C - (3C) - pass - (3H); (2C shows 17+ and is natural)
pass
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Posted 2013-January-29, 02:01

1-1-(1) (16+ ; 0-7 or GF 4441)
2-(3)-Dbl?-(3) (nat NF ; pass would ask for a lead so I suppose partner doubles)
pass
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Posted 2013-January-29, 02:14

To the second part of the problem:

Spoiler

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Posted 2013-January-29, 03:56

Pass, not hard at all to imagine hands where 4X could go fo 500 whereas there aren't that many hands where game makes. May be harder w/w at matchpoints...

Edit after seeing all hands: so I'll end up defending 3.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 04:05

2 followed by pass, when partner fails to act over their cue.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 08:48

11(1)
2(3) pass (3)
(not sure why it chose 2 and not 3 as in a similar previous hand it was close 0.1 imps in it)
pass 3




not sure what 2 shd be i'll read the thread and see if anyone mentions it.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:16

I think this is going to be a bad hand for me.

After
1 - (P) - 1 - 1;
2 - 3,
where 2 shows an Acol 2 in a minor (8 tricks or 21+), would North still pass? If so then I guess I have to pass too (partner must be broke) but it stinks and we could still have a huge club fit. Maybe I should switch to the "EBU variant", where an Acol 2 in clubs gets opened with a 2 Multi; it is the second one where the 2 rebid has caused problems. But I do so prefer the weak only method...

Note: I wrote this before you revealed the hands. It looks like my bid being an Acol 2 rather than non-forcing does not change anything and I just get to defend 3(E). I cannot say I like it though.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:18

qplus, West will raise to 3 in your auction as South did not bid clubs. That probably does not alter the outcome but you never know with computers so it is worth checking.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:23

I don't understand why a '1 hand with spoilers'-format is changed so quickly to a full deal problem. You have like 8 responses to one problem and from now on people will respond to another problem.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:26

MOSCITO auction

1 - 1 (1 = double negative)
3 (3 = clubs
Pass
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:47

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I don't understand why a '1 hand with spoilers'-format is changed so quickly to a full deal problem. You have like 8 responses to one problem and from now on people will respond to another problem.


Sorry if it wasn't enough time. I waited maybe 10 hours after posting the initial problem which I thought would be enough for most people to think about how high they would like to compete. I wanted to give the 0-7 folks the full value of the problem since they can't entirely be sure partner has nothing at their last chance to bid.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 09:56

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-28, 22:01, said:

#21 You are South and dealer; V vs NV ;Imps;This deal was played by a local expert pair; If possible, East overcalls 1H;West competes to 3H or cues 3C if available.
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North T5432 K832 853 2: __ 1 _P
East ..........................: __ 1 3
South J8 6 KQJ7 AKQJT6: 1 2 AP
West ..........................: _P 3
  • 1 = Art, 16+.
  • 1 = Art, neg, 0-7.
  • 2 = Nat

3 is likely to be the final contract but South might double 3. Then North has a close choice between pass and 3.

Marks, IMO: 1, 1N, 2 = 10. (3/(3X) = 8. 3 = 5. 3/4 = 1.

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Posted 2013-January-29, 10:17

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

1 - (P) - 1 - (1)
2 - (2) - p - (p)
3 - (3) - p - (p)

Explanation:
1 = 16+, not a balanced 16-20
1 = denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HCP. With 4 HCP North would have bid 1 = 4-4 or 4-5 in the majors and 4-7 HCP.
2 = natural, 5+ clubs
3 = strong enough to compete at the 3-level

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Posted 2013-January-29, 10:50

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Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

1 - (P) - 1 - (1)
2 - (2) - p - (p)
3 - (3) - p - (p)

Explanation:
1 = 16+, not a balanced 16-20
1 = denying several one or two suited hands with 0-7 HCP. With 4 HCP North would have bid 1 = 4-4 or 4-5 in the majors and 4-7 HCP.
2 = natural, 5+ clubs
3 = strong enough to compete at the 3-level

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I think you're 2H raise is very reasonable, but the opponents on the actual deal cue bid clubs so I'd like to set the problem up that way. 3C P 3H ?
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Posted 2013-January-29, 10:58

View Poststraube, on 2013-January-29, 09:47, said:

Sorry if it wasn't enough time. I waited maybe 10 hours after posting the initial problem which I thought would be enough for most people to think about how high they would like to compete. I wanted to give the 0-7 folks the full value of the problem since they can't entirely be sure partner has nothing at their least chance to bid.

Since these deals are posted on a daily basis, perhaps it would be better to wait 24 hours. Just a suggestion ;)
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