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Posted 2013-January-27, 18:08

Is this site contract or duplicate bridge?
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Posted 2013-January-27, 19:14

Both.

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Posted 2013-January-27, 19:15

Essentially duplicate, but duplicate is a form of contract. There are several forms of contract bridge and several forms of the subset known as duplicate.

I have rarely if ever seen a purely 'rubber' problem posed, but there is nothing that prohibits it. I suspect that few regular posters have a lot of experience with that form of contract bridge, however.
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Posted 2013-January-27, 19:22

View Postmikeh, on 2013-January-27, 19:15, said:

Essentially duplicate, but duplicate is a form of contract. There are several forms of contract bridge and several forms of the subset known as duplicate.

I have rarely if ever seen a purely 'rubber' problem posed, but there is nothing that prohibits it. I suspect that few regular posters have a lot of experience with that form of contract bridge, however.


Not exactly a regular poster but my mom has recently been attempting to learn how to play and just today she asked me about honors (100/150 honors).

I told her how it worked and she said, "Does that go above the line or below the line?"

"Hell if I know."
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Posted 2013-January-27, 19:58

Above the line.

You can download the rubber laws from the ACBL web site (and probably other places).

The technically correct term has always been "duplicate contract bridge", with "rubber" technically called "contract bridge". However, in the latest revision to the duplicate laws, both the ACBL and the WBF removed the word "contract" on the grounds that all previous versions of the game (for example auction bridge) have effectively died out.

Note; "duplicate" is not a correct substitution for "pairs", nor is "matchpoints". For one thing, "pairs" is a kind of format for the games (as opposed to "individual" or "teams"), and "matchpoints" is a form of scoring (as opposed to "IMPs" or "aggregate").
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Posted 2013-January-27, 20:19

View Postkfay, on 2013-January-27, 19:22, said:

Not exactly a regular poster but my mom has recently been attempting to learn how to play and just today she asked me about honors (100/150 honors).

I told her how it worked and she said, "Does that go above the line or below the line?"

"Hell if I know."


Think about it -- if honours went below the line, you'd score a game in any contract, whether it made or not. Even if you were defending.
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Posted 2013-January-27, 21:08

View Postplayermuv, on 2013-January-27, 18:08, said:

Is this site contract or duplicate bridge?
If (as I suspect):
  • you mean BridgeBaseOnline (not the forums) when you refer to "this site", and
  • you're wanting to know about the distinction between rubber bridge and duplicate (not contract and duplicate),

then it is absolutely not a rubber bridge site. You can play "total points", so it is not 100% duplicate, but you cannot play rubber bridge here.
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Posted 2013-January-27, 23:04

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-27, 20:20, said:

Please remove duplicate.

No.

Rubber bridge is not duplicate bridge.

Duplicate means that all of the competitors are playing the same hands in a manner so that comparisons are possible between the pairs playing the same hands (whether in individual, pair or team competition). So removing the word duplicate would be an error.
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Posted 2013-January-28, 00:37

View PostArtK78, on 2013-January-27, 23:04, said:

No.

Rubber bridge is not duplicate bridge.

Duplicate means that all of the competitors are playing the same hands in a manner so that comparisons are possible between the pairs playing the same hands (whether in individual, pair or team competition). So removing the word duplicate would be an error.


I think Vampyr posted the same thing twice, and "remove duplicate" refers to her duplicate post.

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Posted 2013-January-28, 06:18

You can still play rubber bridge if you use the old Windows client.

It isn't very popular...
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Posted 2013-January-28, 07:38

View Postdiana_eva, on 2013-January-28, 00:37, said:

I think Vampyr posted the same thing twice, and "remove duplicate" refers to her duplicate post.

LOL. I completely misunderstood.
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Posted 2013-January-28, 09:11

View Postdiana_eva, on 2013-January-28, 00:37, said:

I think Vampyr posted the same thing twice, and "remove duplicate" refers to her duplicate post.

And I removed it without noticing that someone had replied.

I admit that when I first saw the post I had the same misreading. In most threads it's pretty obvious what is meant, but it was ambiguous here.

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Posted 2013-January-28, 09:53

View Postbarmar, on 2013-January-28, 09:11, said:

I admit that when I first saw the post I had the same misreading. In most threads it's pretty obvious what is meant, but it was ambiguous here.


LOL, yes it was ambiguous here; it did not occur to me until I saw the reply!
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Posted 2013-January-28, 14:10

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-27, 20:19, said:

Think about it -- if honours went below the line, you'd score a game in any contract, whether it made or not. Even if you were defending.


That may be true but my problem at the time was I didn't remember where game-going values where scored. She actually straightened me out on that one.
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