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What do you call here? If it helps, partner's hand is limited to 15 HCP. 2NT here would be natural, for better or for worse.
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Posted 2013-January-23, 04:54
What do you call here? If it helps, partner's hand is limited to 15 HCP. 2NT here would be natural, for better or for worse.
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Posted 2013-January-23, 07:08
Playing standard negative doubles, yes I double.
Now it seems right to rebid 3♣, showing longer ♣ than ♦ (partner will expect 54 with strength or 65 as here).
Now it seems right to rebid 3♣, showing longer ♣ than ♦ (partner will expect 54 with strength or 65 as here).
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Posted 2013-January-23, 07:08
If non forcing 3♣ is avaible I try it, might be a horrible contract, bu we might just have game also.
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Posted 2013-January-23, 07:31
As you did not mentioned it: I assume that 2 ♣ had been forcing instead of a double?
If not you are in deep trouble, because 3 ♣ now would be forcing again- how else can you show a strong hand with clubs?
But if it was forcing, 3 ♣ now would be non forcing and my choice.
Anyway, if you have 2 NT as natural, x should be showing a take out with longer suits- or do you have another meaning for this bid? But I would surely NOT invent this at the table.
If not you are in deep trouble, because 3 ♣ now would be forcing again- how else can you show a strong hand with clubs?
But if it was forcing, 3 ♣ now would be non forcing and my choice.
Anyway, if you have 2 NT as natural, x should be showing a take out with longer suits- or do you have another meaning for this bid? But I would surely NOT invent this at the table.
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Posted 2013-January-23, 07:34
Yes, 2C would be natural and forcing (but not game forcing).
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Posted 2013-January-23, 09:25
Possible misfit?? Well, OK, technically partner hasn't yet denied 3♦s or 2♣s, but I think this is a misfit.
I think 3C is pushing the boat out a little (this could be a combined 17), but if partner will understand 3C as NF, then I'll say we're just about worth that, otherwise pass. (Hmm, I think I'll discuss this sequence with my partners!)
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I think 3C is pushing the boat out a little (this could be a combined 17), but if partner will understand 3C as NF, then I'll say we're just about worth that, otherwise pass. (Hmm, I think I'll discuss this sequence with my partners!)
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Posted 2013-January-23, 09:31
OK, perhaps I should call it "Probable Misfit"
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Posted 2013-January-23, 18:52
I bid 3C. Partner bid 3nt with KJxx Kxxxx Qx Qx and went 4 off on normal but unhelpful breaks.
He blamed me for bidding here with a misfit.
By the way, a 1nt response (to the double) would be 14-16
He blamed me for bidding here with a misfit.
By the way, a 1nt response (to the double) would be 14-16
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Posted 2013-January-23, 19:33
I'll bid a non-forcing 3 ♣. Despite the "probable" misfit, you do have a lot of distribution. If pard persists to 3 ♥, pard's bought the contract and should not expect to see many ♥s in this hand.
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Posted 2013-January-23, 19:52
mr1303, on 2013-January-23, 18:52, said:
I bid 3C. Partner bid 3nt with KJxx Kxxxx Qx Qx and went 4 off on normal but unhelpful breaks.
He blamed me for bidding here with a misfit.
By the way, a 1nt response (to the double) would be 14-16
He blamed me for bidding here with a misfit.
By the way, a 1nt response (to the double) would be 14-16
The problem is with partner's bid. As others have pointed out, a 2 ♣ bid (or 2 ♦ bid if that's the longest minor) would be forcing and should be the starting point towards game if you have a strong minor hand.
The question then is how can you compete when you have a long minor but not enough to bid 2 of a minor directly. The answer is to double and then bid your suit. That's exactly what you did.
Frankly, I wouldn't even consider opening your partner's hand. It has only 1 QT and an 11 count with two dangling doubleton Qs. For game to even have a chance opposite opener's hand, your hand has to be at the very least an absolute max minimum range opener. You've already denied that by not making a direct free bid of your suit. Opener's correct action is to pass.
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