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What failed us? Missed slam

Poll: What failed us? (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Why did we miss this slam (multiple selections possible)

  1. North's bidding (5 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. South's bidding (7 votes [46.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.67%

  3. Inadequate methods (3 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Rub of the green (ie, reasonable everything led to poor contract) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2013-January-19, 22:51



North/South play irregularly (probably 25 times in all), but do have some system notes. 2N opening is 20-21, and this is the only single-suited slam try south could make over 2N below 4. Assign the Blame!
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Posted 2013-January-19, 23:03

I blame South. With only doubleton support, it's common to pass a mild slam try. South's hand looks too good for this. I think he should use Texas and the cue bid the A.

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Posted 2013-January-19, 23:08

Honor X and good primes is just fine for us. My North would just bid six/four. Having more spades in the opener's hand hasn't proved to matter when we used the mild slam try route via non-Texas. If North wanted to Wood, first, fine, but passing 4S is just not paying attention.
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Posted 2013-January-20, 00:01

Both bid extremely conservatively/bad imo
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Posted 2013-January-20, 03:23

With the South hand I'd set spades and ask for keycards. Cue-bidding will probably just help them with the lead. I don't mind getting to slam with two top losers in hearts via an uninformative auction.

What's a "mild" slam try? Presumably responder could have as much as AQxxxxx xx xx xx or AQJxxx xx xx Qxx, because neither of these hands would drive the five-level. If that's also a typical minimum, North should be driving slam (on the second one there's a Morton's Fork to push the odds into the 70s). If responder can have less, opener should only make a try.

When I first looked at opener's hand, I didn't think it was that great, because of the queens and the short honours. However, once I started constructing hands, it seemed that the queens were often working well.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-January-20, 04:15

A law of mine that seems to be true an awful lot of the time is that if you have a 9 count with a 6 card suit opposite 20-21/22, unless you have 2 top losers or 2 trump losers you can usually generate 12 tricks or at least be on a finesse for 12 and usually better than that. Here the hand is better than that (even discounting the stiff J as I would) so I would drive towards a slam.
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